THIS. Might as well have both, high capacity and bigger bullets with lots of power...
As for 9mm vs .45, I don't see a problem with either for protection from humans. I shoot mainly 9mm at the range because it cheap, but if I ever had to shoot at a human I would prefer to be shooting them with a .45. That said, I wouldn't feel underpowered using a 9, as long as you're using good quality HP's...
If I was carrying one for the woods, then I would definitely want to go with something bigger/heavier than the 9mm. I would be using a .40 at a minimum, preferably a .45 or better yet, my G-20 (10mm).
I could also add, with a 6" barrel for the G20, You are legal to hunt.![]()
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You really need to read this article:
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/9mm%20vs%2045.htm
That said, I went through what you are going through, post 1986 FBI Miami shoot out.
I was a LEO and we were allowed to carry just about any reliable firearm that we could qualify with as long as it was a .380ACP minimum.
I carried a 6 shot S&W 357 Mag at the time and was switching over to an auto. I had recently been shot in the hip with a 9mm and was seriously against the 9mm because I was so poorly wounded by one. (read didn't even slow me down and only had to take a couple of days off)
My back up at the time was a Springfield Armory Champion in 45ACP.
(Just listing my experience and use of most common calibers)
I ended up going to a Glock G20 in 10mm (15+1 round capacity)
357 mag equivalent in a 15 round capacity
Since then I have sold my 45ACP, 1911's. I still have the 10mm. But I have also picked back up the 9mm. I don't feel under gunned with today's premium 9mm bullet technology.
I know a lot of people like the 45ACP, but I don't. Heavy, low capacity(most). Personally I think it should have retired before the year 2000. There are some relics who just like the old proven, but today there are lots of better choices. Have you looked into the 9x23 Dillon? (10mm necked down to 9mm) It ZINGS!
I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.
Necked down pistol cases are the devil.
To answer the original question, I would have to say which ever I shoot the best. If I shoot them equally well, I prefer big bullets over small bullets. I don't fear the reload with a less capacity mag. The reload is all in the practice.
Talk to a thorasic cavity surgen that lives here in the front range. He's also an avid shooter. He's worked on hundreds of shooting victims. Most of them were shot with small bullets. He doesn't get to work on many shot with the big bullets, they die. The few that make the table, he's said, have massive wounds in comparison.
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- You must train everyday to be true to your weapon.
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- If you fire a round at a target and you miss, you Have let down the man on your left and your right and have become a liability on the battlefield.
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Agree.
A guy in a pistol/carbine course I went to got shot seven times with a .45ACP and managed to keep the fight going and kill the guy who shot him. I'll take shot placement and training emphasis over caliber any day.
As such, I shoot 9mm. Not only is it cheaper to train with, it's what I've gotten to train for free with at a few various jobs.
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