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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Whether Texas or Arizona have the right to do that is indeed under debate, so to say they aren't allowed is implying which side of this debate you are on. I personally believe they not only have the right but an obligation to the citizens to do so and that if the federal government doesn't do what they are obligated to do (keep in mind that we ALL pay taxes for the government TO DO this, it is not suppose to be at their discretion to do so) then the states need to take whatever actions they feel best for themselves.
    Since shooting Mexicans or Canadians trying to enter our borders is basically an act of war against a foreign state, the Constitution pretty much lays out who can do what:

    Section 8 - Powers of Congress
    ...
    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
    ...

    State governors or legislatures are not given this power. On the contrary:

    Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
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    No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
    ...

    A bunch of unarmed fence hoppers do not equal an imminent Danger or invasion force. Now if The People would like that changed so States can engage in acts of war with foreign states, we have a process for amending our Constitution. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    Since shooting Mexicans or Canadians trying to enter our borders is basically an act of war against a foreign state, the Constitution pretty much lays out who can do what:

    Section 8 - Powers of Congress
    ...
    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
    ...

    State governors or legislatures are not given this power. On the contrary:

    Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
    ...
    No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
    ...

    A bunch of unarmed fence hoppers do not equal an imminent Danger or invasion force. Now if The People would like that changed so States can engage in acts of war with foreign states, we have a process for amending our Constitution. Good luck.

    With 11 million illegals coming into the U.S.A. you think it is not an invasion? as far as unarmed, you need to do some research.

    Mind you, they are called "illegal" for a reason.

    The big picture, try to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drilldov2.0 View Post
    With 11 million illegals coming into the U.S.A. you think it is not an invasion? as far as unarmed, you need to do some research.

    Mind you, they are called "illegal" for a reason.

    The big picture, try to find it.
    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=33790
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_De...ficer_shooting
    http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/politic...deputy-az.html
    http://www.desertconservative.com/20...hing-is-wrong/
    http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/7997305/

    and this one is terrifying
    http://blutube.policeone.com/media/4...er-being-shot/




    damned those unarmed illegals and their loaded non-guns

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