11 year old arrested for stick figures arvada

[weirjf]

No Im Not.
he didn't HAVE a gun, there was no danger, it was a child drawing a picture of how he felt as directed by his doctor.

it was not a threat, it was an expression of his emotion.
he did as an adult told him to do.

you are the ones not getting the point


its like me saying I am going to maroon you on Mars in a Puptent.
without the means it is not a viable threat.
If I am drawing how I feel as directed by a physician, its therapy.
and if I am writing a sci-fi story its an imaginative expression.

no, we get it. You don't think there is a problem until someone dies.



You keep talking about how he was doing as an adult told him, that this wasn't a threat and he didn't have a gun but all of those facts are HINDSIGHT AFTER THEY CHECKED INTO IT. FFS... You wouldn't be defending him if he shot people or they found a gun cache in his bedroom but because they rightfully checked on the mental status of the kid and found nothing, we should go back in time and do nothing. lol

By the way, no I'm not biased against the mentally ill one bit (although you are apparently a master at reading minds); they can't be held responsible for their actions any more than I can for hitting someone while coming out of anesthesia... what I AM biased against is the phychiatry field being unable to figure out which ones are a danger and which ones are not until someone dies and not having a system for making sure the dangerous ones stay on their meds.

[weirjf]

the cartoonist is 52 years old and those aren't people with names over their heads. he also isn't in therapy that I know of

I'll leave the thread as-is. Can't change minds on this subject any more than you can show someone who is blind at birth what the color blue looks like.

Suffice it to say that is it better to be sure than to allow your loved ones to get hurt or killed. To each their own, we can choose to ignore obvious signs of instability and live with the guilt that we had knowledge that could have kept our loved ones safe or we can do a little research and see if it is an issue or not.

Those that argue that his pictures were normal (without benefit of knowing why he was doing it AFTER the fact) I say, in my entire childhood I never drew or saw someone else draw a murder scene let alone one with specific people shown in it.

I think arresting him was absolutely wrong but checking to make sure he wasn't a threat was absolutely right. If you want to blame someone, blame the parents for not notifying the teachers that this was his therapy method.

[BigBear]

...Those that argue that his pictures were normal..I say, in my entire childhood I never drew or saw someone else draw a murder scene let alone one with specific people shown in it.

Never never? Geesh, I would definitely be on death row if I was a kid now a days, lol. I remember showing my drawings to the teacher and saying, "See Missus R, you making me mad!!" HAHA My how times have changed... and I'm a young one.

[Byte Stryke]

no, we get it. You don't think there is a problem until someone dies.



You keep talking about how he was doing as an adult told him, that this wasn't a threat and he didn't have a gun but all of those facts are HINDSIGHT AFTER THEY CHECKED INTO IT. FFS... You wouldn't be defending him if he shot people or they found a gun cache in his bedroom but because they rightfully checked on the mental status of the kid and found nothing, we should go back in time and do nothing. lol

By the way, no I'm not biased against the mentally ill one bit (although you are apparently a master at reading minds); they can't be held responsible for their actions any more than I can for hitting someone while coming out of anesthesia... what I AM biased against is the psychiatry field being unable to figure out which ones are a danger and which ones are not until someone dies and not having a system for making sure the dangerous ones stay on their meds.

Principle: Johnny, why did you draw this picture?
Jonny: Because Im Mad at Mr Teacher
Principle: why would you draw a picture like this?
Jonny: My Doctor told me too
Principle:do you have a gun?
Jonny: No
Principle: Call Johnny's Mother and Father and get me the number to This Doctor.


TADA!
Now... it wont cost the family thousands in Legal fees or the state Hundreds of thousands better spent on common sense projects like "Educator Training."
Instead of vilifying Kids for being Kids, we need to exercise discretion and common sense instead of leaping to a worst case scenario and pulling knee-jerk reactions.
I know, both very alien ideas in this day and age.


Maybe I Do have it wrong,


Maybe I Should have the old lady that accidentally bumped into me yesterday with her car door Arrested, her Grandchild taken into custody with CPS, charged the reckless old lady with attempted vehicular manslaughter and Impound her car. After all she did strike me with a portion of her motor vehicle...


Nope... used common sense, everyone went home happy.