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was this jefferson county, if so i think it will end like this.
offender is interviewed, they see he is illegal and you violated his rights and you are booked and we hear your stoy on the pete boyles show.
Dont you know the rule, Never invite the law into your life.
"Give me liberty or give me death" Patrick Henery
Originally Posted by jim02
wow... and I thought I was jaded
I think that you were trying to make something out of nothing in this forum thread. What was said by whom that was anti-cop before your first post?
Cheap, foreign made Sunday Afternoon Special....there oughta be a law!!
/sarcasm
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
Discussion is an exchange of intelligence. Argument is an exchange of
ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?
You're exactly right, if this happened in Jeffco spyder will go to court for violating the illegal alien's rights. They'll take his guns and hand him a big fat fine.
Jeffco won't even investigate who committed arson (a felony) on Mr. Wallace's RV.
I live in Jeffco, I absolutely do not trust anyone in law enforcement or the judiciary to do the right thing.
I hope that changes when Scott Storey's term is up.
Last edited by roberth; 03-21-2011 at 17:57.
Sorry if I came off, off center, before, I was not trying to be a jerk. Frankly, trying to be very level headed about all of this, I think cops do this country a very valuable service, and on a whole I am very happy with it. But, we're Americans, we always have to fix stuff, and its the job of voting citizens of this country to arm chair quarterback, that's what it's all about.
A. cops are civilians, thats just the law. Calling people who are not cops civilians gives off a really bad vibe. I understand that you have been doing something else for years, but I am letting you know, its not helping anyone. Just for the sake of it, I understand the divide falls under the Posse Comitatus act dividing the powers of the military from the Coast Guard (recent move, see Dept. of Homeland Security) and civilian law enforcement, especially in regard to acting on US soil. I didn't bother to look up line and verse, that I will leave to those more interested. The divide is basically Military or not. Law enforcement is not military. While true, coloquially the term has been adopted by law enforcement groups, that doesn't make it true, and in this case, it is harmful to a tenuous working relationship, meaning it should be seriously addressed.
B. We all lose our friends, I spent 2 years on an ambulance, and then a few more in health care, and now nursing school, almost all my friends are in health care. Its just how it goes, and people "like" people in health care, they just don't want to hear about guts all day. People talking about a DUI at a party, don't get me started, I've all but diagnosed obstipation at a dinner party. Her stomach hurt, I palpated it and she had a whole pile of turd just sitting there. We don't hang out anymore.
C. I think you kind of nailed it, cops view everyone as jerks as they get treated like jerks a lot, this is true to be sure, as you said. But its not every time, I have had a lot of runs in with cops and I try to be very polite and respectful every time. This could be turned easilly, public views cops as jerks as they got treated by cops poorly once or twice, this happens, but I can say for sure, I have been treated well by cops for the most part.
This is just stereotyping. Until someone makes a move this isn't going to be fixed, and in my view, the only group that can change this is the police. Can't make the public become respectful all the sudden, they don't get paid.
D. In terms of the Constitution, you nailed it, if its a matter of interpretation, then it is fair someone else may interpret it differently. All I ask, is that the sensitive issues be viewed as such. A swat raid is not always in order, but I can understand why SWAT teams exist.
finally, cool guy stuff we all like to own, I don't even own a semi-auto anymore! I prefer bolt actions (no, I don't own a sniper rifle, and I am not a sniper) and revolvers. But I agree, there is a serious push to get cops and everyone else into "top tier" tactical stuff , and for the most part, it does look sexy and I think that's where it comes from. Can't ignore the "chicks dig it" factor, luckily for me, my wife has to dig it, or at least say she does, and thats good enough for me.
Last edited by BigMat; 03-21-2011 at 19:16.
My fiance is hispanic and I love her to death. When I watch a Gangland episode about MS13, I'm not real excited to know any other hispanic people.
I have a good friend who owns a book store and is pretty liberal. We get along and don't begrudge each other about how we may feel about particular things. In general, I don't like even the idea of "liberals."
When I run into cops at the store, or my place of work, I find them polite and enjoy the conversation. When I watch hours of Youtube videos of the police beating the shit out of people who are walking their dog, holding a camera, or talking on the cell phone, then I don't like cops.
There is a difference between the way you can feel about a person as an individual, and the way you feel about a group of people.
Something to think about.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Irving, Very well put!
I can pretty much promise if you were to show up at any one of our houses in need and you would find a hand, and beyond that, if you were getting your ass kicked or shot at in public, I assure you, I wouldn't have the bangers back. I think I speak for all of us.
If a cop ever asked me if I was going to spit in his pizza, I'd tell him it depended on if he'd ever been in a Youtube video before.
None of that would ever happen in real life of course, but I have to be prepared with an answer.
"There are no finger prints under water."
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