consitutional carry passes house committee

[Bailey Guns]

Very true roberth, but just as infringement is infringement, incompetent is incompetent.


I am all for being able to carry and to do so without a "Coat Tax" but I do feel that having a competency requirement to do so is not asking much. You have to prove competency to drive, to be a plumber, to be an electrician or to properly close a lane on a highway.

Yes...but none of those activities are constitutional rights.

[BPTactical]

Yes...but none of those activities are constitutional rights.

Very true Bailey

[Bailey Guns]

Sorry, man...not trying to bust your balls. I'm just so tired of the 2A being the whipping-boy of constitutional rights.

I'm also a firm believer that incrementalism is destroying our country and our way of life. Liberals and idiots (sorry for being redundant) have developed a very successful strategy over the past 40 years of destroying our Constitution a little bit at a time.

I am all for restoring our gov't to what it should be. I want our gov't and our elected representatives...from the school board to the president...to fear us as citizens.

We can't get there by submitting to a little infringement here and a little infringement there. There's too much of that already.

So...that's where I'm coming from.

And BTW...I've made a pretty good living over the past 5 or 6 years teaching CCW classes. So I stand to lose financially from a "constitutional carry" act being passed. But it would be worth it in the long run to me for all of us, as citizens, to take back what's been taken from us by a near-tyrannical gov't.

[AR-Tracker]

Sorry, man...not trying to bust your balls. I'm just so tired of the 2A being the whipping-boy of constitutional rights.

I'm also a firm believer that incrementalism is destroying our country and our way of life. Liberals and idiots (sorry for being redundant) have developed a very successful strategy over the past 40 years of destroying our Constitution a little bit at a time.

I am all for restoring our gov't to what it should be. I want our gov't and our elected representatives...from the school board to the president...to fear us as citizens.

We can't get there by submitting to a little infringement here and a little infringement there. There's too much of that already.

So...that's where I'm coming from.

And BTW...I've made a pretty good living over the past 5 or 6 years teaching CCW classes. So I stand to lose financially from a "constitutional carry" act being passed. But it would be worth it in the long run to me for all of us, as citizens, to take back what's been taken from us by a near-tyrannical gov't.

[newracer]

Totally agree with all of Bailey Guns' posts

This seems to fit the topic, plus I just love the ending.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1537893819675#

[Clint45]

We can't get there by submitting to a little infringement here and a little infringement there. There's too much of that already.

The anti-gunners claim they "don't want to take our guns away", and mock 2nd Amendment supporters who are opposed to what they call "reasonable restrictions" on things like hi-cap mags. Our current VP once wanted to ban surplus ammunition cans because I suppose they were frightening to him for some reason.

In my opinion, there is a difference between "infringement" and "reasonable restriction." I do not think there should be any restriction on firearm sales and minimal restriction on shipping (proof of age, ammo shipped separately). I think any citizen should be allowed to keep any firearm in their car and be allowed to CCW a small handgun without a permit. I do not think it is unreasonable for certain cities to require a permit for high capacity automatics and magnum revolvers, as long as permits are easy to get and the penalty for non-compliance is nothing more than confiscation and a fine. Criminalizing guns and gun owners goes too far. If someone commits a crime with a gun, throw them in prison or execute them. Simply owning a gun that a certain city or state or federal agency doesn't like for some arbitrary technicality should not be a criminal offense.

A number of NorthEastern states disagree. A permit is required simply to touch a handgun at the store, and if someone without a permit inherits a handgun or accompanies a permit holder to a shooting range they could be arrested and convicted and imprisoned for doing something that is perfectly legal everywhere else. Then consider how extraordinarily difficult it is for the average citizen to be approved for a permit in those areas. That is a clear infringement and certainly far from "reasonable."

Minor restrictions in densely populated areas I can understand. The anti-gunners will never be satisfied with minor restrictions, though. They want to make it illegal for anyone other than a policeman to CCW. Once they get that, then they'll start placing restrictions on what you're allowed to own. I recall a bill in another state which would require citizens to apply for and be approved for an "arsenal license" if they had more than 20 firearms or more than a thousand rounds of ammunition in their home (one of the bills critics rightly pointed out that a thousand rounds of ammo was just 2 bricks of 22 ammo).