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well, you said my brother in laws dog and my uncles dog. but no, it's the DEPARTMENT. ok, got it. but I'd bet money those dogs live with them off duty.Originally Posted by Boostedxt
and how does a dog back up an officer? by covering his blind side while clearing a house? giving him an extra set of eyes while in a chase? pointing the radar gun at the cars on the corner while partner pulls speeders over?
how about a domestic disturbance call? or a drunk driver.
fleeing suspect is hiding in the garage, may be armed. that's dangerous, he could be waiting to ambush. send the dog.
we think the subject may be transporting drugs, requesting K9 to sniff the vehicle.
all of the things that I can think of that police dogs do are specific actions that are carried out on command in situations where those specific skills are needed.
the dog is a tool of law enforcement.
they wash patrol cars, fill them with gas, and rotate the tires when needed. does that mean the crown vic should get a badge?The K9 unit does actually have some of that. All medical and dental, food, and gear for the K9 is paid for by the department. Kind of cool isn't it? The real kicker is the damn dog doesn't have to pay half of the cost! They get the whole thing covered!..........
though I wouldn't doubt that a canine "officer" is a union member.
uh, my point is that just because they say it's true doesn't make it so.
AR15's are evil! FALSE
all folks from NY are assholes! FALSE
police dogs are real officers! see the pattern?
I agree.Can we stop painting and dressing up animals?....please?
some preists rape little boys! TRUE
some stars use drugs! TRUE
guns make killing easier! TRUE
police have used K9 to alert false positives! there's that pattern thing happening again.
I understand that people get attached to furry critters and like to consider them part of the family/department/band and whatnot.
and I'm not saying K9 units shouldn't be used. they serve a good purpose.
but IMO police dogs are considered officers so that perps won't kill them. period.
heh, this is usually what I hear from LEOs online after I've crushed their arguments under a mountain of logic and diced their rebuttals with my shiny katana of truthful wit.
ps- your post, and past posts, sound like you just hate cops. Not sure if that's true, but that's what it sounds like.
you know what, I do hate cops: the bad ones.
the police are given the authority of violence over the public (YOU AND I) to enforce the law, protect people, and serve the public. (YOU and I)
they are supposed to protect those that can't protect themselves, and when they abuse that power it is the ultimate insult to the public trust.
ever see that movie The General's Daughter? there's a line in it.. "what's worse than rape? BETRAYAL." and when police break the law, trample rights and generally do shit they're not supposed to do it is a betrayal of everything they're supposed to stand for.
most cops are good, yes. there are bad apples, yes. but a cop breaking the law is more damaging to our society than say, a safeway clerk or truck driver.
see this video?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...iref=allsearch
this is recent. the officer saves a man by pulling him from a burning car.
That is, I think, fucking awesome and I admire him. and I cry like a baby when I watch video of the first responders on 9/11. or when I think about the female trooper that got assassinated by a guy hiding in a trailer. or Patrolman Dabling.
but that doesn't mean that when I see a report of a cop breaking the law, or see a video of an officer ordering someone to shut off their camera that I'm not going to hope they get nut cancer.
tonight before I go to bed I'll say a prayer and ask God to watch and protect your uncle and bro in law in the days ahead while they carry out their duty. and their dogs.
wow long post. insomnia is a bitch.
This is so utterly stupid. So some drunk guy was barking at a mutt, did the world end? Was a crime committed? No.
How can a fleabag be considered an officer? They do not have to ability to complete the required steps to be an officer. Ask any of the brave individuals who serve as police officers what makes them an officer and they will say, "I took an oath". (sidenote: Thanks to all of the Oathkeepers out there) A dog can not speak, and therefore can not take an oath. Without understanding the oath and speaking it one can not become an officer. The dog remains a mutt that has been highly trained to fight and satisfy a bloodlust for everyone involved in its handling. It is not an officer.
Ok I have spent my 2 cent worth, and now have to get to work so Obama can feed more crack babies.
My previous post is a response to Boostedxt on why dogs can not be cops no matter what kind of brain washing you have been told to repeat by the academy. Just because your chief says the dog is a cop does not make it a cop no matter how much metal he pins on it.
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not getting into if they are police officers or not.
Just wanted to add that it irks the holy hell out of me when people dress up their dogs and drive around with them in their laps. "But They're my Babies!"
Then puttem in a F****ing car seat."
If you take you "Baby" to a pediatrician, its a Baby.
If you take you "Baby" to a Veterinarian, its a pet.
Get a grip on reality Lady, your "Baby" will never go to high school, isn't going to get lucky at Prom, will not be attending college.
Nah, my Marine friend. Post away. I'm happy to answer questions that I know the answer for. I just know the situations presented so far here on the forum regarding the dogs would not fly due to the state supreme court decision. Other states...I don't know. I've never been a cop in any other state.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Oh hell! You went and poked the Elheuro!All I am saying is the meaning of the badge comes from the department as they put time and money into training the dog just like they do to humans. My brother in laws goes to training with his dog every 1 to 2 months. The dog does a specific job as do human police officers. The dog has a role in the department, therefore they are a contributing member of the department....hence the badge.
Joe
ps- your post, and past posts, sound like you just hate cops. Not sure if that's true, but that's what it sounds like.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
They are living breathing contributing members of the department who have done training courses to improve their skills and go to work with their officer. The department has invested time and money into the dog just like it has their human officers. The department says they are officers, therefore they are officers, hurting one is a serious offense. That is all I am saying.....
Colocowboy: Yes a law was broken according to Iowa Code 717B.9, as well as Public intoxication.....
717B.9 INJURY OR INTERFERENCE WITH A POLICE SERVICE
DOG.
1. A person who knowingly, and willfully or maliciously torments,
strikes, administers a nonpoisonous desensitizing substance to, or
otherwise interferes with a police service dog, without inflicting
serious injury on the dog, commits a serious misdemeanor.
2. A person who knowingly, and willfully or maliciously does any
of the following commits a class "D" felony:
a. Tortures a police service dog.
b. Injures, so as to disfigure or disable, a police service
dog.
c. Sets a booby trap device for purposes of injuring, so as
to disfigure or disable, or killing a police service dog.
d. Pays or agrees to pay a bounty for purposes of injury, so
as to disfigure or disable, or killing a police service dog.
e. Kills a police service dog.
f. Administers poison to a police service dog.
3. As used in this section, "police service dog" means a dog
used by a peace officer or correctional officer in the performance of
the officer's duties, whether or not the dog is on duty.
4. This section does not apply to a peace officer or veterinarian
who terminates the life of such a dog for the purpose of relieving
the dog of undue pain or suffering, or to a person who justifiably
acts in defense of self or another.
Serious Misdemeanor =Up to 1 year in jail and a fine of $315 to $1,875
Class D Felony = 5 yrs in prison
Colocowboy: I heard Obama was giving out free money too! Any idea where I can get me some? OOOOOOObama.....OOOOOObama.....OOOOOObama.
Joe
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