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    I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!!
    If you enjoy doing that sort of thing you're the wrong person for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    If you enjoy doing that sort of thing you're the wrong person for the job.
    Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    Why is that?
    An emotional investment in what you're doing is unprofessional. What would you think of a cop who said "I love to write people tickets just to ruin their day!"

    That's why one of the requirements of being a server is that you aren't directly affiliated with the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!!
    Worked. Past tense. I had no emosion, no remorse. I did Not feel sorry for the people that owed me money. They got bent out of shape, not me! Simply said! No emotional attachment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guylee View Post
    An emotional investment in what you're doing is unprofessional. That's why one of the requirements of being a server is that you aren't directly affiliated with the situation.
    I'm going to say OMG I'm soooooo sorry for what happend, can I hold your hand?? Do you wan't to cry on my shoulder??

    Hello Mr's John Doe would you please sign here?? Have a nice day!! And then I walk away having that warm fuzzy feeling that I could help another CO AR-15 member that got SHIT on and had his heart ripped out of his chest by the one he Loved and Trusted all those years.

    And I would do the same for you!! Have a good evening!!

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    I am free thursday through the following tuesday if you still need it done by then.

    I would get it done asap though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    Worked. Past tense. I had no emosion, no remorse. I did Not feel sorry for the people that owed me money. They got bent out of shape, not me! Simply said! No emotional attachment!!

    ...And I would do the same for you!!

    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.

    That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.

    That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
    +1 well said

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    I'm glad i finally payed my shit off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.

    That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
    Exactly. Even if they are terrible people that deserve it, it's not your place to make that judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. WRONG!!

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
    You have some very good points! Don't get me wrong. But when you own your own business like I do!! You know who owes you money, you see whos 30 - 90 days late, you know whos bouncing checks, I hear the same old stories day after day, I know who hes paying in the industry because of credit meatings, and talking to other creditors. I work with people until I can't put up with the lies any more. I watch my bank account very closely and I know when to turn some screws and who to turn them on.

    Hell on of my customers that owed me $240,000.00 filed bankruptcy showed up in bankruptcy court in an Armani Suit and had on his $2,000 Rolex watch on and I'm supossed to feel sorry for him?? I Don't Think So!!

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