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Of course his speech was a good one, he's a good talker but his actions well......
He's in full campaign mode and suckers will vote for him again just like the first time. Only thing is if he gets in for a second term we're all doomed!
Well, it's not like the republican party is bringing out any better choices so far...Originally Posted by Ed_S
And while I'm not a huge fan of Obama, I think our country would still be in the shit shape it is now if McCain and Palin would have been elected, minus health care and some TSA nonsense. It's gonna take a hell of a lot more than just a non-dem in the white house to make a real difference in this country....
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"Al Qaeda had better benefits than Wal-Mart. Although at Wal-Mart, you get to wear your vest more than once." -- Stephen Colbert
True.. however, 2nd termer typically has much much more freehand on his (extreme) true agenda.
I voted for Obama, PRIMARILY because it was my judgement that a McCain presidency would see:
1. Massive bailouts for banks
2. Healthcare reform just mildly less onerous than Obamacare, with the private-insurance-killing "cover preexisting conditions" clause still there
3. Billions of dollars given to foreign countries to apologize for the US being the US
...and if that was gonna happen, I'd rather someone who stands pretty openly for Statism, rather than someone masquerading as a free market guy, be the one doing it.
At least now its a harder argument to say "the free market has failed! We need a candidate who is more big government!" I mean, they are still going to say it (the bailouts weren't big enough! We need a single payer system!) but its definitely easier to say "you were trying statist things to begin with, don't blame the free market."
I'll probably just abstain in disgust if the GOP puts out Palin, Romney, or some other statist idiot. I don't know if the country can take another 4 years of Obama, but I doubt it can take 4 years of Sarah "windfall profit taxes on oil companies are, like, totally free market" Palin or Mitt "Socialist Healthcare is Cool if a Republican Does it" Romney, or one of their many imitators, either.
We need a real free market + individual liberty person, not some politician who talks a big game but will jump on statist measures at the first opportunity.
"What's wrong with virtually open borders"? You've got to be kidding me.
Waiting for what's wrong with handing visas to all non-violent, non-terrorist individuals who won't draw welfare...What's wrong with "virtually open borders"? You've got to be kidding me.
Huh?
When I say "virtually open borders" those are the conditions I mean. A green card to anyone who wants to work here, won't collect welfare, has no violent record and no attachment to terrorist orgs.
And a (long) path to citizenship for those who want to become a citizen.
So you employ illegals and are an Obama voter. Interesting.
You are what is wrong with this country.
OMFG, there are some people who actually get it.
Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
Obama, so full of crap it is a miracle Air Force One can even get off the ground,
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