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    Not to discount the feedback you have gotten here but given the gravity of the subject I would think you would be best served with an answer by an attorney.
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    Short version:

    CRS18-12-105


    (1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:








    (a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or








    (b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or








    (c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.








    (d) (Deleted by amendment, L. 93, p. 964, ยง 1, effective July 1, 1993.)








    (2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:








    (a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or








    (b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or








    (c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214; or








    (d) A peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2), C.R.S.




    So, unless he has a valid CHP or is a sworn peace officer, he's carrying in violation of state law. An Armed Guard license will allow him to open carry in Denver, but does not in and of itself allow him to carry concealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Not to discount the feedback you have gotten here but given the gravity of the subject I would think you would be best served with an answer by an attorney.
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    Doesn't sound to me like aguy I would want to have around, much less carrying concealed. Sounds like a wannabe to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Best post in the thread.

    +1, talk to an attorney.

    I like to run questions by DA's all the time so I get the "prosecutors" perception.

    I also have a couple friends that are lawyers other than the DA's officer and several sources are always nice, especially when they give relatively the same answer.

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    get lawyerly advice - hmm that from a lawyer

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    FWIW, I don't know what Thornton city code says, but I when I worked security in the Springs, city code specifically PROHIBITED a security officer from carrying concealed when on duty. Might want to have a look at Thornton city code, see if they have something similar. Or get a lawyer to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    I reviewed all pertinent statutes and none are as your employee states. The only thing I could see for his argument is, the definition of a Colorado State Security Guard and him not reading/understanding that relates to employees of the state who are employed as security guards.
    Adams county can expedite his permit if it is required for employment/continued employment. I turned in my app last Tuesday in Adams and they specifically asked if it was for employment for this reason. I don't know how much faster it happens, but they do have some kind of program for it. Unfortunately for me, I didn't need it for employment so I'm on day 5 of 90 waiting.... I would tell him to look into that on Tuesday when the CCW office is open from 9 to noon...

    In the mean-time, I do not believe that he can carry concealed without the permit oin this situation.
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    I just checked with a friend who knows about CCW law, he says he is 80% sure it's not legal for a security officer to carry concealed without permit, even if he is on the job... also there are many counties in and around Denver that require armed guards to have a Merchant Guard license. Guard can face prison time, employer can face business being shut down and a hefty fine. Just be warned.

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