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    I'm sure that's a huge part of it. How much do you want to bet that they upgrade to a 10k square-foot home?

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    That's how it is at every single place I've ever worked. You can literally have people calling/sending letters every single day saying how great you are, and none of it means anything at all. They ONLY look at bad surveys. Don't even get me started on how the survey asks people to rate you on a scale of 1-10, and anything below an 8 gets you into trouble. Might as well just make it a Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down survey.
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    people not in medicine will simply never understand that doctors can't be perfect. for negligence, i don't mind lawsuits for damages. for mistakes, i think its sick and disgusting. who doesn't make mistakes once in a while at work? its impossible to properly diagnose and treat every condition in every person. they never present themselves the same way, you rarely get the whole story, and medications that work in some patients don't in others. you also have to weigh the risks and the benefits with every diagnostic tool and medication. furthermore, you have people breathing down your neck about "unnecessary" labs and exams, and then if you don't do one and it turns out the problem could have been found by that exam, you are fucked. it is not worth it to be a doctor these days. thats the major reason i chose to do pharmacy instead.

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    no, as someone mentioned the problem is cost shifting.
    Nobody actually pays for what they use.
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    forcing everyone who wants service to have it. (illegals plus end of life) without being able to pay for it.

    everyone wants all this end of life, huge cost shifted stuff. (cancer treatments, etc) and they don't pay for it. Either insurance or medicare or they simply don't pay at all (illlegals)

    Medical care was still the best in the world in the 1950's but if you wanted huge costly care, you saved up and paid for it and regular stuff was affordable (because that's what people could pay)

    Paying a couple hundred bucks a month for 20 or 30 years and then demanding 5 million dollars worth of cost extension on your life for some treatment of something is ok. IF you are paying the 5 million dollars. If you expect me and joe and bob to pay for it, that's not ok.

    It isn't insurance anymore, it's welfare.

    oh, and the original case is bullshit. fucking boomers and their selfishness.
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    I can see some of the varied opinions here, and see the point of most of them. I have to saying personally think a lot of the cost rise come from doctors feeling they have to cover their ass. For example, say a woman comes in for belly pain. Let's say she has come in more than once, its a chronic thing for this woman. A doctor is going to run more tears than you can imagine to RT and cover all bases. The abdomen is a shitty place to try and diagnose. Any one thing could be hundreds of different problems. And sometimes they know exactly what it is, instinctively they know, but they will still run every test in the book to make sure that 5 years later you can't come back with another problem screaming malpractice.
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    Really, BOOMERS...??? Think about this. The same time as us "BOOMERS" were being raised in hard working, law abiding, AMERICAN families, the welfare pimps were encouraging certain people to have more babies. The more babies you have the more welfare you get. Which in turn 9 times outa 10 those babies grow into a "BOOMER" and just stay on other forms of welfare. And those two generations never pay a dime in taxes. And that is just two generations, in my several lines of work, I've seen 3 and 4 generations of low lifes that never pay taxes, don't pay their bills and suck off of society. There are tens of thousands in not hundreds of thousands in Denver alone that DO NOT PAY A DIME IN TAXES.

    For you younger members here, you've been brought up beleiving that SOCIALISM is good. All that hippy shit about we have to take care of our own, well the low lifes do not take care of their own, they expect society to do it. The above paragraph is a prime socialism example.

    The worse are the losers on disability for mental reasons. I have seen many that are working up to the time they get the disability payments, then HMMMM they don't gotta work anymore,, or better yet now they CAN"T work. The whole system is fucked and I for one am getting tired of being jacked my none producing citizens slash losers....

    Then on another thread, I am sick of being jacked by elected public servants that line their own pockets at my expense. That, in my way of thinking, is treason and it needs to be dealt with as such...

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    If you have health insurance, and your insurance company pays for an expensive procedure, it is the insurance company paying for it, not tax payers. That's how insurance works.

    However, the concept of insurance (indemnification from accidental loss), does not fit very well with health care, where everyone WILL need to have one kind of care or another in their life time.
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    Please tell me why the average Appendectomy cost is $47K. What kind of BS is this? This is and has always been a simple (and very old) procedure. In fact many years ago when getting a major abdominal surgery if you wanted, they would take out your appendix (cause were going in anyway).

    These are the reason healthcare cost are OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!

    http://www.surgerycosts.net/price.ph...l=appendectomy

    Pretty soon it will be a million dollars to remove a hemorrhoid [insert Obama joke here]
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