The S is about to HTF : Operation Fast and Furious

[stevelkinevil]

atf is on the short list of govt agencies that should be shut down post haste.

we should pull every soldier out of korea, germany, and japan and put them on our borders.

Amen, from your lips to gods ears.
lets

[tmckay2]

if we could keep them out of the US i wouldn't mind so much. i mean they have knowingly and willingly flooded us with tons of illegal immigrants who commit crimes and drain our society, so why can't we arm the thorn in their side and make life harder for them?

unfortunately, those guns will probably come across the border often and cause american deaths

[CMP_5.56]

The scary thing, is that Obama understands that he can not attack gun control head on, just like the brady campaign reported recently. Obama is looking to move gun control forward "under the radar".
One explanation for all of this is quite frightening. Let's say that Obama or his administration initiated these gunrunner programs with the intention for the programs to eventually fail and go public. The desired result would be to get groups like the NRA, Congress, co-ar15, and eventually the general population to scream for a massive overhaul of BATFE. So, Obama shrugs his shoulder and says, "sure, I'll overhaul and remake BATFE, just like I did with the banking industry, the auto industry, healthcare...."
My concern is that a sweeping overhaul of BATFE, under Obama's admin, would be devastating to our rights.

I absolutely agree on this. They are trying to sneak gun control through the side door, while nobody is looking. The left has been planting the seeds for this administration for a long time, and they are really going to start to take away freedoms at some point. More than likely before the next election. They don't want to chance that he won't go back in the white house.

[UberTong]

Whoooa....that gun store in AZ is where I bought my first XD. Weird.

[Ronin13]

Usually when it comes to the future of our gun rights (or any other good thing for that matter), I'm a huge pessimist ... however this whole gun runner thing has me hopeful that we might just see the end of the BATFE as we know it.

I can see it now: "Good evening, I'm Brian Williams, our top story tonight amid many mistakes and errors in judgement, Congress has mandated the dismantling and shutdown of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Republicans in Congress have pushed to keep the employees and offer them jobs at the same pay grade in other organizations within the government to include Customs and Immigration Enforcement, Border Patrol, and the Drug Enforcement Administration."
Now that would be cool...

[Zundfolge]

They are trying to sneak gun control through the side door, while nobody is looking.

Thing is, everybody is looking.

I can see it now: "Good evening, I'm Brian Williams, our top story tonight amid many mistakes and errors in judgement, Congress has mandated the dismantling and shutdown of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Republicans in Congress have pushed to keep the employees and offer them jobs at the same pay grade in other organizations within the government to include Customs and Immigration Enforcement, Border Patrol, and the Drug Enforcement Administration."
Now that would be cool...

That would be cool ... probably a bit more than we can expect, but there are many in Congress that have been pushing for a serious audit of the BATFE for the last couple terms ... this might get more moderate weenies on board with the idea.

[Irving]

I can see it now: "Good evening, I'm Brian Williams, our top story tonight amid many mistakes and errors in judgement, Congress has mandated the dismantling and shutdown of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

I took out the part that I didn't like.

[Byte Stryke]

I took out the part that I didn't like.

because you want unemployment to break 10% ???

[Irving]

Just because some worthless agency gets shut down, doesn't mean that jobs should automatically be created, especially at the same level, for those people. What happened to smaller government?

[Ridge]

atf is on the short list of govt agencies that should be shut down post haste.

we should pull every soldier out of korea, germany, and japan and put them on our borders.

If we do, they cannot be armed. The law forbids the use of armed military personnel deployed within US borders.