Anyone Krav Maga or Systema training?

[sneakerd]

I completely agree. Also, the Mile High and SEOs instructors are pushed harder on their salesmanship than they are at their martial arts. My judgement on a martial arts school usually began with a general appraisal of the instructors. I always needed to be sure that anyone teaching me could beat my ass pretty promptly!

[Tim K]

I can't speak for any of the local Krav guys, but I've spent some time in Israel with the guys doing it over there and was impressed with the practical nature of it. Any discipline that teaches a proper butt stroke with an AR is OK in my book. I did take a couple of classes in the Springs some years ago and came away gassed and impressed.

[flan7211]

I've done Systema for three years and it kicks ass!!! Kav is also exceptional if you want to defend yourself. The biggest difference that I've heard from the two is Systema is more based on relaxed breathing and fluid reaction. While Kav is more about central focus and intensity. There is a Systema academy in Longemont.

[Monky]

If you weren't out in Boulder I'd tell you to come join me for a class..

Just like any training, or work out you get out what you put in... if you're expecting to go to a Cross-fit class and half ass it and see fast results you're dead wrong.. but you put in a solid effort and it'll happen.. for the first few weeks you'll be dead.. then you'll see your cardio and strength improve.. before long they'll just be another work out but you'll enjoy it.

Pat came to join me a few times.. he chickened out

He was a bit fluffy

[MrPrena]

I agree

Majority of Kids' Martial art places are more of a "baby sitting" places than actual martial art places.
That is how my parents initiall put me into TaeKwonDo.

I don't know TKD dojang/dojos or masters/gm has a pickup services, but when I was little, those TKD masters wait outside the school with a mini van.

It was more of a babysitter slash academy. More of afterschool activities , until parents picks them up.

[strm_trpr]

As a kid I was a part of a serious Akido Dojo in California, That was an awesome experiance. As an adult I did about 6 months of Krav Maga at this place in broomfield which was awesome, but I moved too far away and had a kid so that was just too much money. Krav is awesome though.

[patrick0685]

If you weren't out in Boulder I'd tell you to come join me for a class..

Just like any training, or work out you get out what you put in... if you're expecting to go to a Cross-fit class and half ass it and see fast results you're dead wrong.. but you put in a solid effort and it'll happen.. for the first few weeks you'll be dead.. then you'll see your cardio and strength improve.. before long they'll just be another work out but you'll enjoy it.

Pat came to join me a few times.. he chickened out

He was a bit fluffy

ouch...i will admit to needing to lose some weight, however i did not chicken out...im hoping in the fall he will change the schedule back to something that works well with me, i can only come to one day of class with the current schedule

[Guylee]

I was never directly involved in Krav Maga, but I watched a lot of people who did it and the impression that I got was that it's not very practical for the average American citizen...KM was developed for combat by the isrealis, and as such there's no "middle ground" so to speak when it comes to your levels of engagement. It seems to me that once you choose to engage, you either kill or seriously maim your target, which can become a legal problem here (uncle joe gets a little tipsy and starts trying to beat up your buddy, I don't think we need to break his neck). From a defensive standpoint it's a fantastic martial art, but not really applicable in our daily lives. After 11 years in TKD I chose to switch to Combat Hapkido. There isn't very much as far as fitness goes, but it is strictly defensive, and a beautiful martial art for escaltion of force...nearly every technique can be used to either subdue, incapacitate, or neutralize an aggressor. I would highly recommend it if you can find somewhere that's teaching it.

Like I said before though, my conclusions on KM were drawn just from what I saw, so I could be talking out my ass.

[joeyshoe]

If you want my advice, I recommend Zumba fitness.

[Monky]

ouch...i will admit to needing to lose some weight, however i did not chicken out...im hoping in the fall he will change the schedule back to something that works well with me, i can only come to one day of class with the current schedule

Just had to get a shot in on you Pat.. Was only playin about the cheekun part.

I was never directly involved in Krav Maga, but I watched a lot of people who did it and the impression that I got was that it's not very practical for the average American citizen...KM was developed for combat by the isrealis, and as such there's no "middle ground" so to speak when it comes to your levels of engagement. It seems to me that once you choose to engage, you either kill or seriously maim your target, which can become a legal problem here (uncle joe gets a little tipsy and starts trying to beat up your buddy, I don't think we need to break his neck). From a defensive standpoint it's a fantastic martial art, but not really applicable in our daily lives. After 11 years in TKD I chose to switch to Combat Hapkido. There isn't very much as far as fitness goes, but it is strictly defensive, and a beautiful martial art for escaltion of force...nearly every technique can be used to either subdue, incapacitate, or neutralize an aggressor. I would highly recommend it if you can find somewhere that's teaching it.

Like I said before though, my conclusions on KM were drawn just from what I saw, so I could be talking out my ass.

Yeah you're pretty much talking out of your ass.. I have yet to learn any way to 'kill' or 'break a neck'... although just as in anything you learn it's what you apply to it.

I don't train with a firearm with the intent of killing anyone.. I train with the intent of preserving my own life or those around me if need be...

That being said if I have 0 control.. I'm very sure I could maim/seriously injure/kill someone.. but I can do that w/o any training in anything with proper motivation...

As far as it not being practical and a 'combat' self defense.. I welcome you to come try a class out..