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    The real question is if they were just escorting a load of drugs north, or instead meeting up with BATFE to take delivery of some new toys.

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    I read an excellent book once called The Next War by Casper Weinberger that addressed the chance of going to war with Mexico. To put things into context, the book was written based on actual possible scenarios drafted by the CIA and department of defense that are presented to every president. Apparently the CIA believed that war with Mexico was imminent in the future based on the drug war and the immigration problems and if I recall it was deemed to be a very bloody conflict for both sides.

    One may think that we can just steam roll over the Mexicans in a battle but they are quite entrenched and very good at gorilla warfare. One must also be fully aware of the Mexican population in our country (not to mention the Hispanic/Chicano populations AND the large number of Hispanics/Chicano's in our military) - this could be the toughest battle of all with internal dissidence and the possibility of a civil war.

    So the question any diplomat or politician must ask is "is it worth it for a few troops who stumbled into our country?".
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    I hope to be one of the guys sending back soon. Just found out my Border Patrol fitness test is next monday. Wish me luck!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    It's what I was gettin' at; why waste the .mil's time when a much smaller agency can handle it in their sleep?
    Id do it for free but would like my ammo paid for as I would need a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by flan7211 View Post
    I hope to be one of the guys sending back soon. Just found out my Border Patrol fitness test is next monday. Wish me luck!!!
    Wow, that's cool. Where are you hoping to move to? Although just protecting the Colorado border would be a welcome sight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Wow, that's cool. Where are you hoping to move to? Although just protecting the Colorado border would be a welcome sight!
    Wish I could do just that. But I'd probably be held by Hickyshitter saying "who are we going to give subsidized healthcare and education to?"

    My hiring letter said Tucson sector, where some real stuff is going down. That is subject to change though. I'm excited have some buddies down there they love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flan7211 View Post
    Wish I could do just that. But I'd probably be held by Hickyshitter saying "who are we going to give subsidized healthcare and education to?"

    My hiring letter said Tucson sector, where some real stuff is going down. That is subject to change though. I'm excited have some buddies down there they love it.
    Woah, busy area right there! My dad's cousin lives south of Tucson (near Nogales) and he has a gun by every entrance to his house, and always carries one on his hip. He makes a call to BP about once a day, sometimes more. The big problem is not just the illegals coming in almost unconfronted (BP is vastly undermanned and has just too much territory to cover), but the trash left behind, and the fact that residents near the border are prohibited from shooting unless there is a real viable threat... one local cop said "The rules are like Top Gun's ROE- 'Do not fire until fire upon.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Woah, busy area right there! My dad's cousin lives south of Tucson (near Nogales) and he has a gun by every entrance to his house, and always carries one on his hip. He makes a call to BP about once a day, sometimes more. The big problem is not just the illegals coming in almost unconfronted (BP is vastly undermanned and has just too much territory to cover), but the trash left behind, and the fact that residents near the border are prohibited from shooting unless there is a real viable threat... one local cop said "The rules are like Top Gun's ROE- 'Do not fire until fire upon.'"
    Total BS. Yeah the most sickening part is the massive cuts the BP are receiving. Mine is the last hiring class for the foreseeable future. They haven't even reopened testing since March. The process of getting in is getting harder and the need for more agents is getting greater. Kinda pisses me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Id do it for free but would like my ammo paid for as I would need a lot
    Fuck, I'll even bring my own ammo...

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    Sounds like a probe to me. Next time, lock them up and confiscate all of their equipment.

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