Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
Nynco, you may be the nicest guy in the world but for God's sake would you STOP proselytizing every time your fingers touch the keys? The upper class is so deserving that they never serve their nation (like today)? What a steaming tub of horse crap this is. My family is what you would consider upper class and my father served in combat, my brother served in combat and I served in combat. Now, fast forward and I own several businesses and am upper class and would give up everything I own right this moment if my country needed me again.

So, while I respect your [unique] view on history and it's [sometimes] accurate representation, the textbook talking points about the rich being over-privileged and the poor working man being stepped on is over the top. The top 50% of wage earners pay the VAST majority of taxes in this country. I know you claim to be a libertarian but these "middle class and poor are slaves to the rich" crap is right from the democrat playbook.

There is a reason I do not socialize with idiot libtards, they have a very myopic view of the issues based on their libtard heroes and the constant stream of puke coming from their mouths infuriates me to no end. I'm no Fox News junky here, I take the time to educate myself on both sides of the fence because, frankly, both sides are f'ed beyond belief and hardly a word that comes out bears any truth these days.

The downfall of the Roman empire was based on SO many things, not the least of which was the entitlements to the people and the "middle class" was a large part of that. Who pays for entitlements do you think - the handout fairy? And who tend to get the handouts? The rich? I think not! I don't know any rich guys on welfare right now...

Argggggh. Stepping away now because this is annoying me!

Stop proselytizing....... well when I see someone post something that I think is false. I will tell them why and explain why. Or would you rather I just call you a conservatard like people call me a libtard and never explain why?

Also I never said I was a libertarian. I don't fall in any category well. I believe in libertarian, conservative, progressive and liberal ideals. Depends on the issue and I wish more people would stop being lazy and think things that way too. Its far easier to call your self one of the above and just jump on the band wagon.

As to me taking to time to educate myself on the issues. I could write a paper on most all topics from both view points. Does not mean I know everything. Heck I learn something new every day and I welcome the education. Just because I don't agree with you all the time does not mean I'm not educated on the issues. Perhaps if you were humble you would think your own view of liberals being that way could go both ways. Just sayin...


As I said before the top 50% only pay the vast majority if you look at only one narrow slice of the pie. Income taxes..... But once you look at wealth earned per percentages of society and what their total tax burden is, that is shown to be false....... by a long shot.

Let me explain that in a real simple way. 99 people in a room earn 50K a year each. Bill Gates walks into the room. We could tax the 99 people in the room at 100% of all earnings and Bill gates still pays more taxes than them. Thats why our system looks so fucked to you. Your paying attention to the wrong problem.