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    I was just trying to point out that you can't say that the Constitution shouldn't apply to something that didn't exist before. If some part of the Constitution is wrong and shouldn't exist, take it out. Just like Prohibition. I just think it's dangerous to start "interpreting."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    So, yer sayin' low population states might as well not show up to vote then...



    Mmmmmmmmkay...

    Actually no that would do nothing to change the power of a low population state. Abolishing the electoral college would punish states where voters don't vote.

    To explain....

    State 1 has 100,000 people living in it. They receive 3 electoral college votes.

    State 2 has 100,000 people living in it too. They receive 3 electoral college votes too.


    Election day comes.... state one is full of worthless turds who don't pay attention or show up. They are too busy working to care. Because in our messed up system election days are not a holiday and we have all other sorts of holidays but not one on the most important day in the nation...... But 1 guy shows up. Because he does not have a job. He's on welfare. He votes for the bastard "COMMUNIST" oh my State 1 one welfare voter sends 3 electoral votes for the commie.

    State 2 has everyone show up....... all the citizens get it and they vote against the commie. So 100,000 people vote for the other guy. Those 100,000 people send 3 electoral votes too.

    Now tell me........... why the fuck does one welfare idiot who has no job deserve to have more voting power than 100,000 people who decided to take time off work and do the right thing?

    The electoral college is a BAD idea in this day and age........... 1 man 1 vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    It doesn't matter what you change ... progressives would still have twisted the language in the last century and we'd be in the same boat we're in today.
    Sorry but it was the conservatives on the supreme court that fucked this nation good. It was them who said that corporations have the same rights as living citizens. So best look again. Both sides have done our nation great harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Section 1. All Living HUMAN persons born or naturalized in the United States to at least one Lawful Citizen of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    I agree with that byte strike. But I would add that part to it. As it stands now the corrupt supreme court uses the ambivalence of it to rule that corporations are persons too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanls19 View Post
    Someone likes Quartering Troops.
    I didn't say get rid of the 3rd. I just figure it doesn't need the reinforcement the others do... the amendment is already there so its already unconstitutional for them to do so, and there would be such retaliation from the general public in response if they did that I just don't see it as something to worry about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    disagree with this one...
    one man, one vote.

    HOWEVER: I do believe that citizenship should be earned
    Military or Civil (With Medical Disqualifier for Military) service required for citizenship.
    Only citizens may own land, Businesses, Firearms, or Vote.

    Think Heinlein.

    Just saying, too many liberals running around with 800K in student loans and no sense of national obligation.
    +1 on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Half the country would your head on a pike as they burned their bras again.

    Nuh-uh... without the 19th they would be able to do jack about it

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    10%. If it's good enough for God, it's good enough for the government.
    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    that reason alone makes it unconstitutional
    How so? Its not actually incorporating religion into gov't.

    Quote Originally Posted by flan7211 View Post
    I believe the fair tax people say the entire nation could be funded on a 19% sales tax. That includes state,local, and feds. They didn't take into account if we slapped a low or matching tax on foreign goods. I believe at that point we could lower our sales tax percentage significantly.
    I've always thought putting a massive tariff on imported goods would do us well. It would push people towards buying American, which would boost the economy and likely lower the prices of US-made goods because of the increased competition within the US. There's nothing we get overseas that we actually need (don't even try to bring up oil, we have plenty of our own we just refuse to get it), and for the people that REALLY want foreign crap, well they can go for it and the high tariffs they pay for doing so go into our economy as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor Larson View Post
    2nd Amendment...wording.

    Make it simpler.
    How about all the wording on all Amendments to the Constitution? And one thing no one has touched on and I think this is kinda important:
    Quote Originally Posted by 8th Amendment
    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
    So tell me, how is a $100,000 fine imposed against someone who makes less than $40k/yr not excessive? I have a friend, remember innocent until PROVEN guilty, who was held on $750,000 bail (that's $75,000 bond) for suspected Grand Theft Auto, reckless driving, reckless endangerment, and attempted vehicular manslaughter. He was since found not guilty and acquitted (mistaken identity), but coming up with $75,000 nearly forced his family into bankruptcy. The 8th needs to have actual limits, such as with bail only a certain percent of their income, and fines should also be limited by the person's income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    How about all the wording on all Amendments to the Constitution? And one thing no one has touched on and I think this is kinda important:

    So tell me, how is a $100,000 fine imposed against someone who makes less than $40k/yr not excessive? I have a friend, remember innocent until PROVEN guilty, who was held on $750,000 bail (that's $75,000 bond) for suspected Grand Theft Auto, reckless driving, reckless endangerment, and attempted vehicular manslaughter. He was since found not guilty and acquitted (mistaken identity), but coming up with $75,000 nearly forced his family into bankruptcy. The 8th needs to have actual limits, such as with bail only a certain percent of their income, and fines should also be limited by the person's income.

    What are you soft on crime? What are you a pussy libtard I agree with you. But the hows of fixing that will be hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    What are you soft on crime? What are you a pussy libtard I agree with you. But the hows of fixing that will be hard.
    I'm sure you'll educate all of us low brow mouth breathers how it's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    I'm sure you'll educate all of us low brow mouth breathers how it's done.
    Honestly I don't know. I think the answer is to have a check and balance on judges. Thats how the system is supposed to work. But our elected officials never do anything to them. So they run roughshod over our rights.

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    repeal NAFTA

    WTF is fair about making something one one side of an imaginary line for 50-80% less in labor and production costs and not charging a tariff to protect local production, business and labor??

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