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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Proxy servers may get pretty popular...........
    I need to learn more about these... I might be tempted to start reading things posted on Sipsey Street... without my tin foil hat on for a change...
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    Another reason to lock down your wifi router, or go look for unsecured ones i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    Pretty sure that anyone who I am doing business with is already keeping normal business records. The phone company, the power company, the cable company and a number of other places keep all kinds of records about you. For most people their IP address does not change in 12 months, but most ISPs already keep records to deal with abuse.

    So... I operate under the assumption that all this is being done already.
    Go find out how many King Soopers stores or gas stations have any of that information on you.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    The House Judiciary Committee approved legislation on Thursday that would require Internet service providers (ISPs) to collect and retain records about Internet users' activity.

    CNET reported the bill would require ISPs to retain customers' names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers, and temporarily-assigned IP addresses for 12 months.
    The NSA and OIA already have that data, this just permits local law enforcement agencies to prosecute people with it. If you think anything you do online, even behind several proxies, cannot be traced back to you you are mistaken. Who do you think is behind some of those proxies? Did you think it was just a free service some foreigner was providing because he believes in freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Go find out how many King Soopers stores or gas stations have any of that information on you.
    You know all that personal information that you give them (Kings, Safeway, etc.) when you get one of their member cards? Why do you think they need that just to give you discounts on crap?
    They don't. Its for advertising. They track the things you purchase and send you coupons and such for similar items. Convenient, maybe, but the point is YES, they do have that information on you, and most of the time you willingly give it to them.
    Unless that wasn't you being argumentative. In which case yes you're right.

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    All my shopping cards track back to accounts with no name or phone number or to false ones. F them for trying to track me. As to the gov already doing something. Well impuning our Constitutional rights is not an excused because someone has already done it. But hey who needs the 4th Amendment........ or the 2nd for that matter.... right
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    You know all that personal information that you give them (Kings, Safeway, etc.) when you get one of their member cards? Why do you think they need that just to give you discounts on crap?
    They don't. Its for advertising. They track the things you purchase and send you coupons and such for similar items. Convenient, maybe, but the point is YES, they do have that information on you, and most of the time you willingly give it to them.
    Unless that wasn't you being argumentative. In which case yes you're right.
    I figured you'd mention discount cards. This is entirely different though. This is closer to car manufacturers tracking every single place that you drive your vehicle to and how you spend your money at each destination.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Just saw this on another forum, regarding the US likely defaulting on Tuesday:

    This is the part where Obama visits every citizens house and says "It's going to be okay" before smothering them with a pillow.

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    That would certainly take cae of the "healthcare issue".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Just saw this on another forum, regarding the US likely defaulting on Tuesday:

    I laughed out loud...sounded a little evil too

    If you pay with anything but cash, in person, and not under a camera or recording device......then there is a record of what you did somewhere. I am convinced there is no anonymity anymore, and that if you feel the need for privacy in your actions then you MUST be hiding something (said with the greatest sacrasm). Like mentioned already...the records are there, it's just a matter of who is allowed to legally use that info and how. Advertisers and sales/marketing groups already violate your privacy and security more then many would like to realize - especially online.

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