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Possible workable renewable energy?
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Heat Chimneys are a simple technology, but to get the numbers up there they have to be built really, really large. Have to make sure the glass greenhouse can withstand hail storms. Some designs have the enclosure being used for growing plants near the outer edge, before the air gets too hot or is moving too fast.
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Interesting, thanks for posting. Also, looks like that design would work well in CO too.
There are many sources of unclaimed energy that we can tap as a society as well as individually (if you can figure out the hurdles the government puts in your way). Wind, solar (passive and active), gravity, gasification, methane, tidal, biofuels to name a few.
For instance, my wife and I are working towards purchasing south facing property on a slope. Towards the top of the property, I will use a solar pump on my well which will fill (3) 1500 gallon cisterns. We will have (3) 1500 gallon cisterns near the bottom of the property. We will run PVC piping between the two sets of cisterns and have a harris microhydro generator just in from of the bottom set to generate energy to a battery bank. Using a water ram (which does not need electricity) we will send the water back up to the upper set of cisterns and the process will start again. It will cost me a bunch of overtime at work but for me the benefit of not relying upon the "system", it is well worth it.
Youtube is full of folks doing cool things to generate their own electricity. A strong ally of generating your own energy is ensuring you make use of all the potential energy you are using now (i.e. heating water with a woodburning stove, capturing the heat released by your clothes dryer that just pumps it outside, radiant floor heating(and cooling in the summer). The "green" movement could learn quite a bit from the petroleum refining industry. They have very little waste (not because they are green but because it is a waste of profits if they don't) and are very energy efficient.
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I was intrigued by this as it doesn't require water or any exotic materials, just hot air....think of the untapped resources of that in DC.....
Seriously, though, this has potential because of the high efficiency. It would seem to be something that works on a fairly massive scale, but not so much on a smaller one.
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co-generation
it seems like this could have great potential for co-generation, as was mentioned growing on the outer parts of the ring before the air is too hot or moving too fast.
what about solar panels- what kind of heat can they take? could they occupy some of the space in the "greenhouse" where it is hotter? What about housing other heat sources inside that area, or using heat chimneys in places where you already need to have heat that you're trying to vent?
Just throwing some ideas out there- but co-generation is how you really drive up efficiency... like heating water with exhaust temp from a generator (as an example)
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How is what you are describing not an over-unity device? In other words, it sounds like you're describing perpetual motion. A water ram requires a large supply of flowing water, only some portion of which is pumped. If you were trying to harness a flowing stream coming down a hill to return some of that water back up, it would work. I don't see how it'll work with two cisterns -- and certainly not in any way that will generate continuous power without violating the third law of thermodynamics.Originally Posted by netsecsys
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Not to mention they could power the world with the methane coming off all that BS they are spewing...I was intrigued by this as it doesn't require water or any exotic materials, just hot air....think of the untapped resources of that in DC.....
Very interesting. And even if it doesn't work, the gubment will subsidize and say that it does. It's a win-win.
Kyle
Girlscouts? Hmmm, I don't know... I think it's kinda dangerous to teach young girls self esteem and leadership skills.
I will have two sets of cisterns. One at the top of the property and one set at the bottom. There will be some flow and head downstream the cisterns at the bottom of the property that can send some (not all) of the water back up to the upper tanks to keep them filled (taking some load off the pump system at the top) with the water ram. Not talking about perpetual motion. Thanks.
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