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I'd start the process of getting a lawyer on the line. Something's definitely up and if nothing else, you should find out how they got that information and why.
X2Originally Posted by dropped_71chevy
Yes you have been violated. Did you buy all the guns from one ffl dealer? Then it must have been them that said something to the cops? Did you tell a liberal friend about all the new guns? who told on you? And why did you let the cops in your gun safe, house and bedroom? Tell them to get a warrant of go &&())*&^%^%$
Come 'on. That's insane. I would think that if as you say it was a matter of them coming to the house because you bought too many guns- it would be the BATF, not the local PD. Not buying it. There has to be something else going on.
I really dont give a rats ass what you are buying, I have said exactly what happened, and I get a little upset when some one says some thing like that. I dont think I got on here to lie to all these good people and give a bulcrap story
I too have a hard time buying much of what you've said even before you started this thread. Did you get cards, names? Badge #'s? Give Dudley a shout and let us know how this unfolds.
-Mike
"I have to return some video tapes"
I dont see why you guys have such a hard time buying what I just said. Why would I get on here and make up such a story, I was mainly wanting to know if it has happened to any one else, and now I am being called a liar basicly, thats not cool.
It's highly plausible the local PD would Arrive at your door instead of the ATF. It's more realistic than the ATF driving up there from the Denver office to determine if you are doing straw purchases. Both the Joint Terrorist Task Force and the Safe Streets task force are ran by the FBI, have ATF Agents assigned to them, have multiple other local PD officers and sheriff officers assigned to them, and they would shell this out to the local PD rep to call their agency and do a request for assistance. Then the send a patrol car to the home and make contact.
As far as I can tell from the info posted, neither the OPer nor the cops have done anything illegal or shady. I wouldn't expect the average person to know how to handle being approached like this at their home either. Cops get training on the law, how to stay within the law, and how to manipulate a situation to get consent.
What concerns me the most out of this scenario is just how the info on your gun purchases became an issue in the first place. There are a few ways it could have happened, and a couple of them are concerning. But, I do suspect which ever task force got involved, they didn't put a lot of credence to the possibility you were breaking the law. They would have handled it differently if they did. I would write this one off to a learning experience and save your money for a lawyer at this time.
What to take away from this is cops don't get in your house without a warrant or logical explanation while discussing the matter OUTSIDE YOUR CLOSED DOOR. I can think of a few reasons I might give consent, so I won't say to never give consent, but you should be very hard pressed to open the door and let them in after stepping out and shutting the door to discuss the matter with them. If they act offended by this, well, too bad (and they are playing you to get in if they act all butt-hurt). Consent can be revoked at any time. When they said why they were there, you can tell them they are off base, you haven't committed any crimes, they are on a fishing expedition, and to leave. Just be polite. That never hurts. If they do see evidence of a crime while in though, they aren't leaving. So, hide the big bag of cocaine that's on the counter (just kidding).
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Anyone that thinks war is good is ignorant. Anyone that thinks war isn't needed is stupid.
I am pretty sure I know how, there is a company here in greeley big R of greeley is the only place we have our guns sent from gunbroker, there is a guy there that makes a comment everytime we go in, like oh you are getting more guns I see and he always has a bad attitude
Lawyer
I was thinking of getting a lawyer I am just not sure how to go about it
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