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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I feel bad about what happened to the officer. Makes me wonder why they don't use ballistic glass and armor those officers vehicles. I guess the money to do that went to Iraq and Afghanistan to help stabilize the hydrocarbon markets.
    At least we are happy to know our President is safe in his armored new tour bus!

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secre...ry?id=14317203

    Money, PD's just wont spend the money on it. In reality, this would seriously make taxes go up.

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    Default Factory Installed Armor

    I was thinking the cost would not be that much if all the patrol vehicles had armor installed at the factory. I mean the manufacturers produce "Law Enforcement " specific vehicles with special engines, suspensions, etc. Why not armor. I remember back in the 1960's the argument there was not enough money for all USA police officers to have "ballistic vests". I bet today it is the rule, than the exception, that an law enforcement officer has a protective vest.

    Anyways in retrospect, it is our elected officials misaproppriation of public funds and their failure to grasp the realities of life on todays streets. I remember a Teller County Deputy was gunned down by a shotgun while guarding a burned down building in an arson case. The deputy was shot at point blank, while sitting in his vehicle. There was some talk of outfitting all the patrol vehicles with a infrared detection system that would warn the officer if anyone came within 50 feet of his vehicle. I don't know if any systems were actually installed.

    Maybe some day a politician will read this, and get you guys some better protected vehicles, instead of voting themselves a pay raise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I was thinking the cost would not be that much if all the patrol vehicles had armor installed at the factory. I mean the manufacturers produce "Law Enforcement " specific vehicles with special engines, suspensions, etc. Why not armor. I remember back in the 1960's the argument there was not enough money for all USA police officers to have "ballistic vests". I bet today it is the rule, than the exception, that an law enforcement officer has a protective vest.

    Anyways in retrospect, it is our elected officials misaproppriation of public funds and their failure to grasp the realities of life on todays streets. I remember a Teller County Deputy was gunned down by a shotgun while guarding a burned down building in an arson case. The deputy was shot at point blank, while sitting in his vehicle. There was some talk of outfitting all the patrol vehicles with a infrared detection system that would warn the officer if anyone came within 50 feet of his vehicle. I don't know if any systems were actually installed.

    Maybe some day a politician will read this, and get you guys some better protected vehicles, instead of voting themselves a pay raise.
    Special police vehicles are a misnomer. Special engines, transmissions, brakes, etc. are all just slightly beefed up components from the regular version. Mostly the cooling system to allow for the excessive idling we subject them to.

    The Ford CVPI has an option for bullet resistant panels in the door, from the factory. Pro-Gard has them available aftermarket. They are $1,300.

    We aren't worth $1,300 as I've never seen a car equipped with them.

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    Default Panels

    These are the panels. You would think that the Feds giving all that cash to the Iraqis and Afghanis could afford to buy these.

    https://www.fleet.ford.com/downloads...cDoorHC_LR.pdf

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    Perhaps I am in the minority here, and maybe it's because I'm old fashioned or something, but I believe that the vast majority of cops are good and like anything else, there are always a few bad seeds. It's like saying that all priests are pedophiles, but only a very small number are and they get all the press - most priests I know (and I know a lot) are fine folks.
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    Nature of the beast. Career in public service puts you in the eye of the public, held to standards which may or may not be appropriate, as we are referred to being held to a higher standard.

    We aren't held to any higher standard at all. We simply have a few different rules than citizens not involved in law enforcement. We should hold ALL CITIZENS to the SAME HIGH standards as a society, rather than expecting more from someone simply because of their function in society. That's not to say there aren't different rules governing our behavior, but the standards should be the same.

    Ok, enough semantic vomit for the day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    These are the panels. You would think that the Feds giving all that cash to the Iraqis and Afghanis could afford to buy these.

    https://www.fleet.ford.com/downloads...cDoorHC_LR.pdf
    Yeah, at $2,400 per car...



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