9 Mm Vs 45 Acp

[Graves]

I did put in the time only to find no proof of any of your claims. It's no secret that S&W has a kick ass forgery, this is why many other companies like Wilson, CMC, Kimber, etc. source raw materials from them. If you're gonna claim that these companies are merely assembling S&W's and stamping their names on them, I'd like to see proof. Compare me to a whiny raiders fan or call me a Kimber fanboi all you like, but from where I'm sittin', you're full of shit.

ETA - Did you ever work for S&W?

[Atrain1]

I did put in the time only to find no proof of any of your claims. It's no secret that S&W has a kick ass forgery, this is why many other companies like Wilson, CMC, Kimber, etc. source raw materials from them. If you're gonna claim that these companies are merely assembling S&W's and stamping their names on them, I'd like to see proof. Compare me to a whiny raiders fan or call me a Kimber fanboi all you like, but from where I'm sittin', you're full of shit.

ETA - Did you ever work for S&W?

That is because no one wants to believe S&W makes parts for kimber Harley davidson guys would probably cry about it to, which is what I dont understand S&W is a great company they made the Schofield Revolver for crying out loud

[spyder]

I have looked into this topic before actually, and I can't remember what companies site I found it on (will try to find it later). This is how it goes. Smith & Wesson provides a company by the name of Jerico (I think that's the name) with the basic metal, no actual slides or frames (Kimber is the owner of Jerico). Jerico or whoever then takes the raw metal blanks (basic raw chunks of metal that barely have any resemblance to gun parts) and turns them into the slide and the frame based on what and how Kimber wants them. Then Kimber does whatever in the hell else they want to after they get the basics slide and frames delivered to them. So, ya S&W provides Kimber with their metal, that is as far as it goes. A company owned by Kimber makes the metal into the slide and frame. So, no, S&W does not make Kimber's slides and frames, they merely provide the metal for Kimber to do so.

S&W makes a lot of the basic metal components for a lot of different companies many of which are not even in the firearm business.

[Bailey Guns]

...but from where I'm sittin', you're full of shit.

Oh...you must be sittin' in the same section as I am.

[Atrain1]

Oh...you must be sittin' in the same section as I am.

Again almost funny, you know what I find interesting why are there so many kimbers for sale, every time I get online I see 1 to 3 for sale saying I decided to go a different way. I think that is code for I spent way to much on a 1911 and want to find some one as dumb as I am to buy my over priced 1911 that is no different than a good RIA. It should be obvious that I know just a little bit about the company and how it came to be, I do hours of research before I purchase a firearm that is why I would take a pt1911 over a kimber and unlike most people who run there mouth about a firearm that is expensive it is because they cant afford it, believe me that is not the case I could buy a WC but I dont see the purpose of purchasing a gun for 2200 that does nothing different than a gun for 1000 Like I said before all my 1911 pistols are my choice. I have made the mistake of paying to much for a gun I purchased a Ruger P345 for almost 600 bucks that I did not do research on and it was before I really got into guns I found the same gun at a different shop for a little over 400, so I sold it and got my money back.

[sneakerd]

Atrain- since you know sooooo much about 1911s, why bother to ask anyone's opinion about what caliber to choose? It seems to me that you are all about the argument and all about showing everyone else how much you know. You're a braggart. I'm pretty sure that in a nutshell is why we (some of us) question you and front you as we do.

[SA Friday]

Again almost funny, you know what I find interesting why are there so many kimbers for sale, every time I get online I see 1 to 3 for sale saying I decided to go a different way. I think that is code for I spent way to much on a 1911 and want to find some one as dumb as I am to buy my over priced 1911 that is no different than a good RIA. It should be obvious that I know just a little bit about the company and how it came to be, I do hours of research before I purchase a firearm that is why I would take a pt1911 over a kimber and unlike most people who run there mouth about a firearm that is expensive it is because they cant afford it, believe me that is not the case I could buy a WC but I dont see the purpose of purchasing a gun for 2200 that does nothing different than a gun for 1000 Like I said before all my 1911 pistols are my choice. I have made the mistake of paying to much for a gun I purchased a Ruger P345 for almost 600 bucks that I did not do research on and it was before I really got into guns I found the same gun at a different shop for a little over 400, so I sold it and got my money back.

Wow, and here I thought most people were selling off Kimbers due to poor construction and horrible warranty service...

Please, dude, just stop... Read more, type less.

[sneakerd]

A little more punctuation too please.

[Atrain1]

Wow, and here I thought most people were selling off Kimbers due to poor construction and horrible warranty service...

Please, dude, just stop... Read more, type less.

Hey you said it I have never once said they were of poor quality, But they do use plastic MSH and alot of MIM parts, Like I said they usually say they decided to go a different way, one is on armslist right now that states it is unfired and he decided to go a different way. Yes I dont like them mainly do to being over rated and way over priced, and the fact that they are no better than my Desert Eagle, the action on my DE is way better than any kimber I have come across

[Bailey Guns]

Again almost funny, you know what I find interesting why are there so many kimbers for sale, every time I get online I see 1 to 3 for sale saying I decided to go a different way. I think that is code for I spent way to much on a 1911 and want to find some one as dumb as I am to buy my over priced 1911 that is no different than a good RIA. It should be obvious that I know just a little bit about the company and how it came to be, I do hours of research before I purchase a firearm that is why I would take a pt1911 over a kimber and unlike most people who run there mouth about a firearm that is expensive it is because they cant afford it, believe me that is not the case I could buy a WC but I dont see the purpose of purchasing a gun for 2200 that does nothing different than a gun for 1000 Like I said before all my 1911 pistols are my choice. I have made the mistake of paying to much for a gun I purchased a Ruger P345 for almost 600 bucks that I did not do research on and it was before I really got into guns I found the same gun at a different shop for a little over 400, so I sold it and got my money back.

No...not buyin' it. I think Graves nailed it. You're just full of shit.