Some good stuff From Rick Perry

[mopar]

I'm afraid the republican and the tea party are going to split the conservitive vote, and we'll have Obeyme for another four years.

[Drilldov2.0]

I'm afraid the republican and the tea party are going to split the conservitive vote, and we'll have Obeyme for another four years.

Not with his party abandoning him. They have no one.

By this time in 2013, he'll be giving useless speeches to heartbroken dims. Which is the only thing he is good at doing. I'll bet he will have a new book out to tout as well. (which was written on his watch when he should have been leading the country. Will it be called "Bush's fault?)

[UberTong]

Uh, she's saying the earthquake and Irene are messages from god to Washington about spending.

I don't like Perry's ties to Merck and his executive order requiring all teen girls in Texas be required to get the HPV vaccine...a vaccine that at the time only Merck sold.

He's not terrible otherwise. He's too religious for me. His spending record in Texas doesn't give me any hope he'd do anything to help while President.
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A) It shouldn't be nuts for an elected official to mention GOD. This country was founded on Christian principles, whether you believe in a deity or not. The values that accompany this is what made America once great. You guys (atheists, religion haters, whatever) are way too fucking sensitive on this one.
B) Reference Marlin's signature...SARCASM. Maybe she believes in Zeus too right?

[Zundfolge]

I want the stupid O out of office, so I will support whoever the independent moderates will support.

I'm afraid we're going to get another mealy mouthed, middle of the road, moderate, "Democrat lite" Republican candidate (like McLame ... who only started to do well when the conservative firebrand Palin came aboard) and people will choose "the real thing" over the fake any day and we'll end up with O again.

Authentic, genuine conservatism wins every time.

"Independents" don't care about ideology (if they did they wouldn't be independents), they care about sincerity (or at least the appearance of it).

Independents flocked to Obama last time for two and only two reasons:
1) They wanted to be part of history (electing first black pres)
2) They believed he was sincere and "authentic".

[Mobat555]

A) It shouldn't be nuts for an elected official to mention GOD. This country was founded on Christian principles, whether you believe in a deity or not. The values that accompany this is what made America once great. You guys (atheists, religion haters, whatever) are way too fucking sensitive on this one.

Tong, just to play devils advocate here. You would be cool with references to Allah then?

[Bailey Guns]

Independents flocked to Obama last time for three and only three reasons:
1) They wanted to be part of history (electing first black pres)
2) They believed he was sincere and "authentic".

3) They don't really stand for anything.

Sorry, Z...had to fix that for you.

[Zundfolge]

3) They don't really stand for anything.

While that's certainly a contributing factor (and frankly a big reason why people ARE independents) its still not a reason ... its not part of their decision making process.

Its because they don't really stand for anything they'll go for the candidate they believe is "real", "authentic" and "sincere" ... regardless of said candidate's actual beliefs.

That's why I argue that we need a real, authentic and sincere conservative, not some hand picked drone that will "appeal to the moderates" (like Romney or Huntsman or Christie for that matter).


I'm mostly arguing against the foolish notion that a lot of conservatives have that a real conservative can't get elected so we have to water our shit down to appeal to the masses.

That's just bullshit.

[mopar]

Not with his party abandoning him. They have no one.

By this time in 2013, he'll be giving useless speeches to heartbroken dims. Which is the only thing he is good at doing. I'll bet he will have a new book out to tout as well. (which was written on his watch when he should have been leading the country. Will it be called "Bush's fault?)

Drilldov, I certainly hope your right about the election.
The book should be called" Waaaaa! the LIBS unloved me".

[UberTong]

Tong, just to play devils advocate here. You would be cool with references to Allah then?

Sure wouldn't. Islam is a pretty drastic example to play devils advocate with. But let me give a better example. An atheist candidate, who didn't believe in God, but believed in the principles, ideals, and values this country was founded on. I wouldn't say whoaaaa this guy is way too Godless for me.

We need some values and some SPINE back in the white house. It's totally different to recommend a religion/social structure that has zero to do with the founding of this country as my post stated. I just don't want to see a guy discredited because he's too religious, when his values and ideals might be what is needed, somebody that stands by his values and ideals.

Just look at the other thread with great quotes from our forefathers that was started today.

I didn't mean to get on whoever posted that one, wasn't my intention.

[stevelkinevil]

Only ticket I want goes Paul/whocares. The rest of these people are just more of the same, flip floppers with no integrity who want to limit your liberty just as much as the dems, just in a different way.