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    Anyone who has to appeal to religion to get votes was weak to begin with. This country was built by men who wore wigs and rode horses. It was just a part of the culture.

    I can't think of a single country whose laws have not been directly derived from religious law. That is just the way that societies have developed throughout history. Religion isn't bad, but I've yet to see a single politician who is sincere with their religion. I haven't seen them all of course. Religion in public office is a very touchy thing in this country. Everyone tries to shoot for the middle of the road on the religion issue, and they all do it poorly.

    It is my opinion that dragging religion into topics that don't have anything to do with religion, is just a way to cater to a specific voting block. In my experience with life, the people who are most sincere about their religion, are those that talk about it the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    I don't recall anybody saying he's the perfect candidate. Backed Al Gore in '88? Who hasn't made mistakes in the past? Reagan was a democrat before he became a conservative, and he turned out ok and did some good stuff as president.

    If you're looking for a perfect candidate, I highly doubt you'll find him/her. Don't get me wrong, I hate having to settle for a less than desireable candidate.
    We have been "settling" for the "less than desireable" for too long now. I'm voting for Ron Paul and refuse to vote for the media's darling child. The very fact that the media ignores Ron Paul or tries to smear him when they don't ignore him is the EXACT reason why we should vote for him.

    Perry entered the race and the media already declared him the front runner but the guy is nothing more than a fucking neo-con.

    Did you know Vicente Fox thanked Perry for giving instate tuition to illegals in Texas?




    Do you all still like Perry???

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    Rick Perry also supported the TARP Bailout





    This guy is an ideological light weight. We need someone who stands up for their principles every time.

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    If I had to vote for Ron Paul as the republican candidate, in my opinion I'd be in a position where I was forced to "settle for a less-than-desirable candidate".

    He's totally insane on national security issues related to foreign policy. I find that highly undesirable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    If I had to vote for Ron Paul as the republican candidate, in my opinion I'd be in a position where I was forced to "settle for a less-than-desirable candidate".

    He's totally insane on national security issues related to foreign policy. I find that highly undesirable.

    That street runs both ways, ya know.
    Your right. Keeping the same foreign policy of the last 60 years is totally sane.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    Look at Europe where the mass exodus of [Muslim] immigrants is threatening their way of life and attempting to instill sharia law.
    Looks like you've answered your own question here.
    Which question would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    Your right. Keeping the same foreign policy of the last 60 years is totally sane.


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    You can be a RP fanboi all you like. It doesn't change at least two facts:
    1. He will not be the republican nominee
    2. His tremendously dangerous foreign policy ideas and his lack of insight into national security as it relates to foreign policy will be the primary reasons
    Oh, yeah...voters don't give a rat's ass about signature lines on internet forums. Neither do I.
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    It's really funny how the majority of RP fanboys have to accuse those who don't share their views of Ron Paul of following the talking heads on Fox News or O'Reilly. If that's all you got, bryjcom, you're wasting your breath (or bandwidth in this case) trying to convince me to vote for Paul

    They view it as undeniable fact that RP is the ONLY desirable candidate and their narrow minds can't comprehend that many people, I'd venture to say MOST people since that's been proven the case in the past, don't find him as desirable a candidate as they do.

    Be an RP follower all you like. But don't try to convince me he's the only desirable candidate. I find him highly undesirable overall. An overwhelming majority of voters have obviously felt that way in the past. Will that change this time around? I doubt it but we'll have to wait and see. I suspect when it's all said and done that RP will not be chosen by the voters to be the Republican nominee and RP fans will still cling to their assertion that they're right and everyone else is wrong.

    I do agree with some things he says but I disagree with others. And I'm really tired of hearing how everyone snubs RP. For cryin' out loud...he polled in single digits in the last two presidential elections. In terms of presidential candidates he's been a lightweight the last two times he's ran. That's because people don't like him. Hell...even Ross Perot polled at close to 40% when he ran, then withdrew, then ran again and he got almost 20% of the vote in the election. Paul hasn't come close to any of those numbers and there's a good reason for that. It's not because the media ignores him, it's because most people don't agree with him.

    Get over it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    You can be a RP fanboi all you like.
    Wait... Ron Paul or Rick Perry fanboy? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobat555 View Post
    Out of 44 presidents we had how many are there that did not practice some sort of Christianity (unless you don't count Catholicism)? None, so I guess my response would be that religious affiliation does not always have a bearing on their character.

    While my statement is farfetched about Allah, makes you ponder the idea of church and state separation. If another religion gained the majority it would more then likely attempt to force that religions ideals on the population. Look at Europe where the mass exodus of immigrants is threatening their way of life and attempting to instill sharia law.

    Religious affiliation has zero to do with character unfortunately. But...my point was that someone should not be cast out and thrown aside on their personal beliefs, thats all. Hell I still think Barry is a closet Muzzie.



    January 3 2007 and March 11 2008 Muslims were elected to congress. If we truly were at war with the religion then why is it freely practiced here?
    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    Holy shit... someone actually said it!



    That would be like electing a Communist in the middle of the Cold War.
    Whether you accept it or not, the west and the major religions are at war with Islam. Yes, the religion itself, not merely the political aspect of it.



    Run for pres. You'd have my vote.
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    I haven't seen that kind of bigoted rhetoric around here in a long time.
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