Bad Crash at the Reno Air races.

[sniper7]

You're guessing here. And you're wrong, too.

If you think a modification to put hydraulic actuators on a P-51 would be a weight-saving effort, I have some wooded beachfront property in Wyoming I'll make you a deal on.

Sure, they're modified airframes; and engines, too. And so are the props. They're RACERS, for shit's sake.

As soon as you find an Unlimited class racer that's modified to run the primary flight controls with hydraulics, send me some pictures or other empirical data. Trust me, when you find it, it's going to be turbine-powered and a whole lot bigger and heavier than a P-51, and at this time, an airplane like that isn't allowed to race in these events.

Until you do find that evidence, just plan on checking back with me when you have 36 years of airplane maintenance experience like I do (including, by the way, some time working on a Mustang).

Ill respond when im sober but there is plenty of combinations I put up. Especially for highly modified racers. Maintenance guys have fucked up lots of my planes and tons of my paperwork so your sign off means jack to me unless I look everything over

[Tweety Bird]

Ill respond when im sober but there is plenty of combinations I put up. Especially for highly modified racers. Maintenance guys have fucked up lots of my planes and tons of my paperwork so your sign off means jack to me unless I look everything over

"YOUR" planes? If you're a pilot, I hope you sober up before you strap in. And if you're a pilot who actually understands how "his" airplanes work, you'd realize how silly it is to suggest hydraulic flight controls on a Mustang.

I don't have the patience for dimwits any more.

Lowry was closed as an airfield in the 60s. That is to say, THERE WERE NO MORE AIRCRAFT ACTIVITIES CONDUCTED THERE AFTER THAT POINT. I didn't say that it was closed, only that they didn't fly from there any more. So if you went to an airshow there after the 60s, you were either dreaming or smoking something pretty good.

Next time you post a link, you might want to read ALL of it.

From the wiki article:

Flying activities had begun at Lowry in 1938, and through the years, many different aircraft had operated from the airfield, but by the mid-1960s airspace in the Denver area had become so crowded that in 1966 the Air Force directed Lowry to shift all of its flying activities to nearby Buckley Air National Guard Base.

I couldn't care less if you work on race cars. To even suggest that someone would convert a P-51 to hydraulic flight controls borders on extreme ignorance of this subject. And to suggest "electric" flight controls is even more absurd. It's OK, if you haven't had the training, we can fix that. But please accept the fact that I'm right on this issue, and you, well, are NOT.

[TriggerHappy]

You guys have to remember, the owners and flyers tend to get in on most of the mods and perform test run after test run. I have wrenched on the Mcdonald Racer, they went through 5 props before they found what they liked. The Unlimited class is a bit up for discussion, but they do have to be airworthy and go through inspection prior to race day. They run the bare minimums and for the most part there are 2 or more certified mechanics per team.

For the T-6 class you can only modify certain components, not all. You find primarily all standard flight controls, race engines are used with custom props and EGTs.

As for Lowery, I am much too young and not from CO to remember any of that. Good luck.

[TriggerHappy]

it would be completely asinine for them to end the airshow.

which is why I'm worried they'll do it.

I think it will just move to another city that wants the revenue.

[TriggerHappy]

Btw, I have about 45 min logged in that bird. She sure is a sweet ride.

[Tweety Bird]

Nice! I assume that's at Centennial?

Do you remember the Stump Jumper? It was a Mustang undergoing a major overhaul/restoration after a mishap at, I think, Akron, CO. I was lucky enough to get to do a little work on it. It was nice to be able to be around it all day and at the end, just brush a little dust off my hands and go home. That was a beautiful machine, too. Don't know what happened to it but by the time they were done with the restoration, it had been sold to someone in CA, I believe.

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/p51who/81.shtml

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51re...1-4463810.html

Next time you fly to the LUFSE waypoint, look to the East and wave at me.

[sniper7]

"YOUR" planes? If you're a pilot, I hope you sober up before you strap in. And if you're a pilot who actually understands how "his" airplanes work, you'd realize how silly it is to suggest hydraulic flight controls on a Mustang.

I don't have the patience for dimwits any more.

First off, you need to drop the personal attacks or name calling. that bullshit is uncalled for.

Yeah I am a pilot and I know more than my fair share about planes considering it is my job. My ass is the one in trouble if YOU or a mechanic fucks up, and there are plenty of them that do screw up and I have to make sure it is done correctly before I go.

As to the hydraulics, you might want to read my WHOLE post like you so adamantly require of drilldov2.0 and attacked him as well. I said it could be a combination of things, could be electric, could be hydraulic, could be a combination. or it could have been the original design. I was making the point that you just don't know what these guys do to modify the aircraft, everything for the controls, the engines, the systems, the avionics etc.

You really need to take a chill pill and not attack people. if thats the case maybe you should take some time off.

[jerrymrc]

Come on guys. I know I started this but be kind. People were lost in this. I WILL kill it.........

[BPTactical]

There was new video released today of the incident with almost a direct underside view of the Mustang as it made the last turn and crashed.
The pilot never had a chance.

[clublights]

There was new video released today of the incident with almost a direct underside view of the Mustang as it made the last turn and crashed.
The pilot never had a chance.

Link please?