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    I like how he is actually stating some kind of plan, instead of just saying "I'm gonna fix the economy!" I also like how, when asked about some social issues, he said that jobs and the economy are more important.

    I don't like his stances on abortion and gay marriage, but I appreciate that he knows there are bigger fish to fry.

    But because of the social side of things, I wouldn't vote for him. But I think he's decent.


    I still think Carl Weathers should run though; he's the right black guy for the job IMO

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    I think Cain has a legitimate shot.
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    Personally, I think Cain, Newt, or Paul would be a great Vice President.
    Vice President to who?
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    If I had to vote today, I think I would go with Herman Cain for a couple of reasons:

    -He offers solutions consistent with the constitution and rule of law
    -His executive experience (although not a prerequisite IMO, it does help)
    -He is positive, focuses on what can be done to fix the situation instead of focusing on how bad the situation is and who caused it
    -He has common sense
    -He is 50% more black than Obama

    As far as his 9-9-9 turning in to 27-27-27, there are ways to avoid this.

    To avoid the 999 turning into the 27-27-27, the bill could say that in order to raise the rate, 2/3 of both houses and 3/4 of the states must concur, just like a constitutional amendment. Problem solved.

    The 999 plan is a stepping stone to get rid of the income tax and establish a consumption tax. In the meantime, you pay a 9% tax on your income minus charitable deductions and a 9% national sales tax (I would assume on only new goods at the point of retail, but not sure). Businesseses pay a 9% tax on income minus investments, dividends paid, and business to business purchases. Ends the payroll tax, capital gains tax, death tax, and double taxation on dividends.

    The ultimate goal is the implementation of the Fair Tax, and nothing else.

    I personally like the 999 plan for the most part. Like most people, I'm a liitle apprehensive about instituting a new tax before getting rid of the old one, but with the amendment like requirements to change the rate, I would be fine with it.
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    I've spent some time now looking over the 9-9-9 Plan proposed by Herman Cain. I'm no economist but it sure makes a lot of sense to me.

    I was initially a little skeptical of the guy because I knew so little about him. But the more I learn and the more I hear him, the more I like him.

    He genuinely appears to be a man of action and a man with a plan. That can't be said about anyone else. No one else has come forward with a comprehensive economic recovery plan. Herman Cain has.

    I like him and I'll be listening closely to him in the future.
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    I was just on The Blaze and Cain has played the Race Card. I had hoped he would be above that. Too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wctriumph View Post
    I was just on The Blaze and Cain has played the Race Card. I had hoped he would be above that. Too bad.

    yeah, he lost points with me for that.

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    Well how about a little help? What, exactly, did he say?

    I found this:
    “African Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view.


    I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it’s just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple.”
    But I have to say, his stock went up with me after reading that because I believe it's true.
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    He was mad that that the Perry family had a hunting lodge called "******head" and they didnt change the name of it until the early 80's. And people call this "pulling the race card."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Well how about a little help? What, exactly, did he say?

    I found this:
    “African Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view.


    I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it’s just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple.”
    But I have to say, his stock went up with me after reading that because I believe it's true.

    rick perry's family leased some land for hunting that was called "******head"

    in 1981 when he began leasing the land, perry's father painted over the sign.

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    "Since Gov. Perry has been going there for years to hunt, I think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place," Cain, a businessman, told ABC television's "This Week."
    "Yes, it was painted over," he said. "But how long ago was it painted over? So I'm still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity."


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20114488.shtml


    some locals still know the area by the same name.



    so it was covered over 25+ years ago, but without the requisite mea culpas and ass kissing so it doesn't count.


    political correctness in relation to the word ****** is really one of my pet peeves. as long as kanye west and jayZ make millions saying it, and millions of black people all across the country say it every day, I will not edit it from my vocabulary simply to satisfy some idea of decorum or political correctness.


    Please note: I don't use the word. not to swear, nor as a name for black people. but when it's the topic of discussion, as it is here, I REFUSE to edit my speech on the grounds of "correctness"



    if it were such a bad word to say, then black people would stop saying it.

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