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    Machine Gunner Hoosier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    The United States needs to pick a side, warts and all, and support that side exclusively.
    Why should this be true? The concept of "A Side" is inaccurate, it makes the wild assumption that the millions of residents in these places are the same, want the same, act the same. It might be more fair to say that we want to be on the side of the millions of people who live there, minus the idiots who keep killing people.

    There are plenty of Palestinians who just want to raise their kids. The workers that build these Israeli settlements out on the tops of mountains are mostly Palestinians trying to do well by their family.

    And then there are groups of determined and funded people who want to do things like capture a soldier and hold him for five years, returning him gaunt and in exchange for 1,000 convicted felons.

    It's the wide range of attitudes and actions that you just can't paint the entire thing in black and white.

    A former coworker and programmer friend lives in Tel Aviv. He's an American who married an Israeli. Ever since then, I put this show on my DVR www.linktv.org/mosaic, it shows Israeli local news in English, since he said that's what he watches. His Hebrew has gotten pretty fluent, but he says it's "relaxing" to listen in english without having to kind of process a foreign language. It also shows Al Jazeera, Doha, Saudi Arabia, and Qatari news in English. It's strange to hear English being translated to Arabaic, back into English.

    www.linktv.org/mosaic

    Watch the video at about 8:00 minutes in is the Israeli local news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    Why should this be true? The concept of "A Side" is inaccurate, it makes the wild assumption that the millions of residents in these places are the same, want the same, act the same. It might be more fair to say that we want to be on the side of the millions of people who live there, minus the idiots who keep killing people.

    There are plenty of Palestinians who just want to raise their kids. The workers that build these Israeli settlements out on the tops of mountains are mostly Palestinians trying to do well by their family.

    And then there are groups of determined and funded people who want to do things like capture a soldier and hold him for five years, returning him gaunt and in exchange for 1,000 convicted felons.

    It's the wide range of attitudes and actions that you just can't paint the entire thing in black and white.

    A former coworker and programmer friend lives in Tel Aviv. He's an American who married an Israeli. Ever since then, I put this show on my DVR www.linktv.org/mosaic, it shows Israeli local news in English, since he said that's what he watches. His Hebrew has gotten pretty fluent, but he says it's "relaxing" to listen in english without having to kind of process a foreign language. It also shows Al Jazeera, Doha, Saudi Arabia, and Qatari news in English. It's strange to hear English being translated to Arabaic, back into English.

    www.linktv.org/mosaic

    Watch the video at about 8:00 minutes in is the Israeli local news

    H.
    I like black and white, that's why. The Palestinians don't deserve recognition because they elected Hamas, a known terrorist organization to lead their government.

    The United States is being played for suckers by the rest of the Arab world.

    Thank you for the linktv link.

    I love how the Palestinians want their countrymen who murdered Israelis released. It is OK to murder Israelis but if Israel lifts a finger to try and convict murderers or to defend itself, well we just can't have that.

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