military and privet contractors being trained to police u.s. cities ??

[TFOGGER]

Marines were "advising" on the ground during the LA riots. With loaded M16s, and defined RoE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

I know someone that was on the ground in LA, and apparently his unit did a fair amount of "advising"...

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[Mick-Boy]

Roger. I heard some of the stories in boot. I know it has happened in the past.

What's the criteria? Does the Governor of a state have to request Federal troops?

[Elhuero]

You shouldn't believe all the stories told to you at the gunshows, Alex.

definitely true.

[alxone]

You shouldn't believe all the stories told to you at the gunshows, Alex.

ok you got me on that . normally i dont believe even half of what i hear but this fella seemed so d*mned sure i figured id ask you guys

[DD977GM2]

Cant ever see it happening except on a complete SHTF Doomsday scenario where FBO wants to take over the country then the world.

In that event, Im gonna be getting some great new weapons since the kids
on Red Dawn did it, I can do the same

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

yes its called martial law last time it was implimented was durring hurricane katrina

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

Martial law is the imposition of military rule by military authorities over designated regions on an emergency basis—usually only temporary—when the civilian government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, and provide essential services), when there are extensive riots and protests, or when the disobedience of the law becomes widespread. In most cases, military forces are deployed to quiet the crowds, to secure government buildings and key or sensitive locations, and to maintain order.[1] Generally, military personnel replace civil authorities and perform some or all of their functions. The constitution could be suspended, and in full-scale martial law, the highest-ranking military officer would take over, or be installed, as the military governor or as head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.[1]
Martial law can be used by governments to enforce their rule over the public. Such incidents may occur after a coup d'état (Thailand 2006); when threatened by popular protest (China, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989); to suppress political opposition (Poland in 1981); to stabilize insurrections or perceived insurrections (Canada, The October Crisis of 1970). Martial law may be declared in cases of major natural disasters, however most countries use a different legal construct, such as a "state of emergency".
Martial law has also been imposed during conflicts and in cases of occupations, where the absence of any other civil government provides for an unstable population. Examples of this form of military rule include post World War II reconstruction in Germany and Japan as well as the southern reconstruction following the U.S. Civil War.
Typically, the imposition of martial law accompanies curfews, the suspension of civil law, civil rights, habeas corpus, and the application or extension of military law or military justice to civilians. Civilians defying martial law may be subjected to military tribunal (court-martial).

[DD977GM2]

Martial law is the imposition of military rule by military authorities over designated regions on an emergency basis—usually only temporary—when the civilian government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, and provide essential services), when there are extensive riots and protests, or when the disobedience of the law becomes widespread. In most cases, military forces are deployed to quiet the crowds, to secure government buildings and key or sensitive locations, and to maintain order.[1] Generally, military personnel replace civil authorities and perform some or all of their functions. The constitution could be suspended, and in full-scale martial law, the highest-ranking military officer would take over, or be installed, as the military governor or as head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.[1]
Martial law can be used by governments to enforce their rule over the public. Such incidents may occur after a coup d'état (Thailand 2006); when threatened by popular protest (China, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989); to suppress political opposition (Poland in 1981); to stabilize insurrections or perceived insurrections (Canada, The October Crisis of 1970). Martial law may be declared in cases of major natural disasters, however most countries use a different legal construct, such as a "state of emergency".
Martial law has also been imposed during conflicts and in cases of occupations, where the absence of any other civil government provides for an unstable population. Examples of this form of military rule include post World War II reconstruction in Germany and Japan as well as the southern reconstruction following the U.S. Civil War.
Typically, the imposition of martial law accompanies curfews, the suspension of civil law, civil rights, habeas corpus, and the application or extension of military law or military justice to civilians. Civilians defying martial law may be subjected to military tribunal (court-martial).

Katrina was not a very long time and only due to the fact the complete infastructure and city was destroyed and was only implimented after the fact of the hurricane's passing.

I dont this happening on a wide scale for any amount of time other then a serious natural disaster. Even then it would only be to maintain order and prevent looting etc. Not a take over of a city or state etc.

[OneGuy67]

Katrina was an interesting case scenario. We had federal troops assisting (82nd Airborne for one) and a lot of National Guard troops. Hell, it isn't that well known, but the Mexican Army sent water filtration units there to assist.

While some would argue it is a fine line or even a non-existing line, there is a difference between the National Guard and Active Army troops. But there is a line. For one, the NG are under the authority of the Govenor of the state and can be requested/sent to other states to assist. We call it Title 32 under the U.S. Code for National Guard being paid/authorized under the color of the Governor's authority. NG can be nationalized like for deployments to Iraq and that is called Title 10. At that time, the Soldiers are under the color of the U.S. Army and federal law and no longer under the authority of the Governor.