Sorry about my old sticker design...

[sniper7]

it is supposed to be a bullet sitting in the bolt face.

that will probably be too much detail for a sticker, especially a small 3" 2D sticker on a vehicle moving a a decent speed. I think the headstamp with a small amount of lettering or just 5.56 on the bottom would be pretty simple and much easier

[frozenmud]

I'd gladly donate $20.00 to the legal fund.

I good for $20. I'm also in for some cookies if we do a old fashioned bake sale fund raiser.

[Elhuero]

considering he did not just take the barfcom logo and paste it into his design, it should be fought.

I got out one of the stickers and checked it against the logo and they are clearly different.

fight.

[Irving]

How about a sticker that says, I "C" guns. And the "C" would be from the Colorado flag.

[clublights]

Doesn't a "close" "copy" ( I say "" cuz it's not an exact copy of their logo it's representation of a piece of hardware they don't own the patent on) need to show some sort of malice or how it would harm them ?

I don't see show even a couple hundred of these stickers will hurt the " site that shall not be named" ... we are not going to buy stickers from them anyways .. no matter the price ( even if they sent them with a 5 dollar bill in the envelope I'd RTS Them personally ..............) ... ( ok I'd take the 5 bucks out and trash the stickers... )

Like Apple can shut down places that use there logo and sell fake iPhones/ computers. it hurts apple cuz people are buying fakes.... or if you prefer if you buy a fake copy of windows your hurting microsoft's bottom line by folks thinking they are getting a true copy of windows when they are buying a fake .


am I making sense?

[Elhuero]

Doesn't a "close" "copy" ( I say "" cuz it's not an exact copy of their logo it's representation of a piece of hardware they don't own the patent on) need to show some sort of malice or how it would harm them ?

I don't see show even a couple hundred of these stickers will hurt the " site that shall not be named" ... we are not going to buy stickers from them anyways .. no matter the price ( even if they sent them with a 5 dollar bill in the envelope I'd RTS Them personally ..............) ... ( ok I'd take the 5 bucks out and trash the stickers... )

Like Apple can shut down places that use there logo and sell fake iPhones/ computers. it hurts apple cuz people are buying fakes.... or if you prefer if you buy a fake copy of windows your hurting microsoft's bottom line by folks thinking they are getting a true copy of windows when they are buying a fake .


am I making sense?

yes. their logo is not used in or is a part of our sticker.

if we were mustang enthusiasts, just because they have a logo they have reserved the rights to doesn't mean we can't have a mustang in our logo.

they don't own the rights to the image of a mustang, just their image that they have reserved the rights to. as long as we don't use the image they have ®, we can use whatever we damn well please.

please don't roll over. fight these greedy bastards.

[Jer]

Copyright law says that it cannot be an exact copy of anothers work.

I'm glad you said this. How can they possibly state that the reason for the problem is the bolt face in the design when that exact part is public domain? It's not like they took this part as a base and made some unique changes to it and you copied those in your interpretation of a public domain part. The part of the logo in question doesn't even look the same. To me this is sabre rattling and I personally wouldn't cave. I've stood up as an individual against MUCH larger global companies who had a better case than this which I won so I wouldn't let the chest puffing scare you. That's just me though because I really feel the original logo was the best by far and has at least three differentiating pieces which would make it enough as to not confuse others.

By the way, the company was Osram, parent company of Sylvania and I told their team of lawyers to pound sand (after research on my part) and modified their cease & desist order to benefit me and countered and said that was my one and ONLY offer to settle this. They claimed their client may not agree & I stated they would be doing them a disservice if they allowed them to believe they could do any better and what do ya know... they agreed. If you saw some of the claims and threats they made initially though I can see where people would panic and do whatever they said to make it all go away.

I wasn't part of any original discussion of this topic since I didn't know about it so this is my part on that subject speaking from personal experience.

please don't roll over. fight these greedy bastards.

This.

[DD977GM2]

I'm glad you said this. How can they possibly state that the reason for the problem is the bolt face in the design when that exact part is public domain? It's not like they took this part as a base and made some unique changes to it and you copied those in your interpretation of a public domain part. The part of the logo in question doesn't even look the same. To me this is sabre rattling and I personally wouldn't cave. I've stood up as an individual against MUCH larger global companies who had a better case than this which I won so I wouldn't let the chest puffing scare you. That's just me though because I really feel the original logo was the best by far and has at least three differentiating pieces which would make it enough as to not confuse others.

By the way, the company was Osram, parent company of Sylvania and I told their team of lawyers to pound sand (after research on my part) and modified their cease & desist order to benefit me and countered and said that was my one and ONLY offer to settle this. They claimed their client may not agree & I stated they would be doing them a disservice if they allowed them to believe they could do any better and what do ya know... they agreed. If you saw some of the claims and threats they made initially though I can see where people would panic and do whatever they said to make it all go away.

I wasn't part of any original discussion of this topic since I didn't know about it so this is my part on that subject speaking from personal experience.



This.

I agree 100% with the highlighted. Screw that other site and their whiney asses

[DD977GM2]

Also I wanna hurry up and get a CO-AR sticker design going so I can add it to my truck
and takethe other sticker down

[BlasterBob]

Also I wanna hurry up and get a CO-AR sticker design going so I can add it to my truck
and takethe other sticker down

Why would you "take the other sticker down" ??