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    Good conversation going on. I applaud the mature, detailed arguments between CStone and Sharpienads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    DHS has a few good agencies- CG, SS (not just because of protection but their original reason for creation, to keep funny money out of circulation)... I also think with a few more restrictions and limits the FBI can be good, CIA, and again more restrictions the NSA is very useful. Here's my short list of what I think are pretty decent agencies:
    USGS, USFS, US Geo-spacial Intelligence Agency, DOD, DIA, NOAA, FWS, NPS and that's about all I can think of right now...
    Here's what need to go, preferably now:
    MPAA, and RIAA(not gov but still needs to go away), FCC, TSA, NDIC, DEA, MBDA, and a few more but these top the list. And with the money and people let go by the now defunct DEA I'd say put that money into the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

    I would rather the ATF be gone then the DEA. If they can deliver it people will use it.

    USDA would be all right if they would get my home loan done!

    And as far as wasted gov resources the USPS could go away, all they deliver to me is junk mail that I then have to recycle.

    TSA would be good if it was tweaked in my opinion, as well as FBI/CIA. SS is a necessity. FCC is also a necesary evil, but should be slapped around and put in its place.

    I believe the DOJ is the most corrupt. Makeing a law that says its ok for federal agencies to lie about records to US citizens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trlcavscout View Post
    USDA would be all right if they would get my home loan done!
    What does the Department of Agriculture have to do with your home loan?
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    What does the Department of Agriculture have to do with your home loan?
    Exactly. And why is the Dep of Education conducting armed raids?

    http://www.news10.net/news/local/art...-Stockton-home
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    What does the Department of Agriculture have to do with your home loan?
    HAHA! Little do most people know they do "rural development" loans. Home loans for smaller towns/rural areas.

    But I turned in my app the end of August, they pulled my credit a week and a half ago and I still havent heard anything! Normal gov hurry up and wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Exactly. And why is the Dep of Education conducting armed raids?

    http://www.news10.net/news/local/art...-Stockton-home
    Maybe she cheated on a test? That is a good question?

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    Shouldn't be an issue at all. It was in a checked bag. I have had thousands of guns on my planes. The TSA is and will continue to be a massive waste of money and resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trlcavscout View Post
    HAHA! Little do most people know they do "rural development" loans. Home loans for smaller towns/rural areas.

    But I turned in my app the end of August, they pulled my credit a week and a half ago and I still havent heard anything! Normal gov hurry up and wait.
    I knew the USDA did this... there was a big thing about it earlier this year because whoever was running it admitted that she was giving preferential treatment to blacks who applied (she is black) and then had change of heart and saw the error of her ways. I can't remember her name. I guess I could google it...

    But this is a classic example of what we're talking about. There's no mention of agriculture in the constitution, and even if there was, why are they giving home loans? What business does the federal government have giving home loans in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    I knew the USDA did this... there was a big thing about it earlier this year because whoever was running it admitted that she was giving preferential treatment to blacks who applied (she is black) and then had change of heart and saw the error of her ways. I can't remember her name. I guess I could google it...

    But this is a classic example of what we're talking about. There's no mention of agriculture in the constitution, and even if there was, why are they giving home loans? What business does the federal government have giving home loans in the first place?
    I see why they say they do it to get more people to move to rural areas. I also see how the preferential treatment works. Last year I was denied for the loan, so I have fixed every reason they denied me for. I resubmitted my packet with all the info including their denial letter from last time with proof its all taken care of. So I will see if I get approved this time. But yes all the people I know of that have gotten this loan are hispanic/black. It should be called the "rural non-honkey" loan.

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    Not only does the USDA run the rural loan program, but most of the rest of the federal employees are paid by the USDA. The National Finance Center: https://www.nfc.usda.gov/ direct deposits my check (thanks to all of those who pay taxes on behalf of me and my family) every two weeks. Since Agriculture pays us, some of us have speculated that money really must grow on trees.

    Any other federal, state, or local agencies anyone likes? I grew up pretty close to Ft Meade, so my first government application was submitted to NSA. An excellent place to work, especially if you have a language aptitude.
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