Modern 1911

[Atrain1]

Does anyone think the design of the 1911 will ever change? kind of like the Beretta did with the 92, kept the same look just changed it a little with the 90two to make it look more modern.

[JohnTRourke]

Why would you mess with perfection?

Nor do I see anyone around who could hold JMB's jockstrap

[Atrain1]

Why would you mess with perfection?

Nor do I see anyone around who could hold JMB's jockstrap

I agree and would not purchase one do to the fact that it should never change, I am a die hard 1911 fan. But It would be interesting just to see what they would try to do to it.

[CO-Exprs]

Several companies have tried to "update" the 1911. Para, STI, Kimber and Wilson all have wide body designs. Para has the LDA. Smith has messed around with various attempts at updating as well. Some have been highly successful, while others have floundered. Even the 1911's we see on the shelf now are considerably messaged from the original. There isn't anything "perfect" about the 1911. If you drop $2k into a custom Glock, it would shoot awesome too. I love 1911's only for the reason that I can shoot them better than any other platform, but they are expensive to make, If you want them to be accurate, they have to be tight. If they are tight they are feed finicky and must be kept clean to function. A match 1911 barrel will last 80-100k rds. A stock glock barrel will go 250k and requires cleaning half as often. A match 1911 trigger lasts 10k rds for every 1lb of pull, so a 3lb trigger will only last 30k rds. A 3lb glock trigger will last twice that long and cost a few bucks to rebuild. If I could shoot a glock as well as a good 1911, I'd shoot glocks. As it stands, I am doomed to prefer a platform which costs 2x-4x more money and will last half as long. Poor me.

[Zundfolge]

CO-Exprs is correct. The doublestack 1911 is the modernized 1911 (and I'd specifically say the STI 2011/SVI Infinity framed guns are the great advancement ... more so than the Para).

[Atrain1]

CO-Exprs is correct. The doublestack 1911 is the modernized 1911 (and I'd specifically say the STI 2011/SVI Infinity framed guns are the great advancement ... more so than the Para).

I am talking about changing how it looks.

[sneakerd]

Imho- the most major current alterations to the basic 1911 form are these: the external extractor, "monolith" frame and integral bull barrel- or any system that eliminates the barrel bushing. Already in use and they still don't alter the basic physics/design of the mechanism.

[Tanium Design]

Colt did try to do a modified and updated 1911 for the SOCOM Pistol trials. It eventually went to HK with the Mark 23. I think its hard to do much with the 1911 due to its slim profile and simplicity compared to more modern firearms. Might be interesting to see a striker fired 1911.

[jerrymrc]

I am talking about changing how it looks.

Kinda hard to do that. Now I like the 2011 and there are variations on a theme. I grew up with 1911's so certain things must be in the same place and work the same way. CZ-75 comes to mind. Yes there are things that are very different but the grip angle and controls are all in the same place.

Your not looking at how pretty it is when you are shooting it and for me the transition from my 1911 to my witness is seamless because in use everything is the same except for the width of the witness.

Just a thought.

[Omicron]

I've wondered for years how long it'll take someone to make a hybrid 1911/Glock. That is to say, looks like a 1911, handles like a 1911, single stack like a 1911, but without the exposed hammer and thumb safety - instead, a striker fire mechanism and Glock trigger. I think that'd be a great combo, and the best of both worlds. Or an abomination under God, take your pick.