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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthewall81 View Post
    It restricts our freedom. I dislike anything that restricts freedom.
    Driving a motor vehicle is a privilege and not a right, therefore does not impose on your freedoms. Just like speeding or careless driving are not forms of freedom.

    The government looks at transportation as a high risk activity and in order to reduce injury and fatality statistics they enact regulations to make it safer for the general public. Laws are usually created because some people can not think for themselves so as a result everyone must suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmeis View Post
    Driving a motor vehicle is a privilege and not a right, therefore does not impose on your freedoms. Just like speeding or careless driving are not forms of freedom.

    The government looks at transportation as a high risk activity and in order to reduce injury and fatality statistics they enact regulations to make it safer for the general public. Laws are usually created because some people can not think for themselves so as a result everyone must suffer.
    If I do not want to wear my seat belt, I should not be required too do so. I could careless about the statistics, if I want to do something that is not harming or infringing upon another persons rights, I should be able to decide what I want to do.

    "laws are usually created because some people can not think for themselves so as a result everyone must suffer." This quote sounds like something Hitler would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    I would suggest you contact one of the biggest proponets of seat belt laws in the state of colorado. She is an expert on the matter, trust me i know. :P

    If it were you or i we would be facing vehicular manslaughter charges!

    She still continues to make law in the state of colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    I would suggest you contact one of the biggest proponets of seat belt laws in the state of colorado. She is an expert on the matter, trust me i know. :P

    If it were you or i we would be facing vehicular manslaughter charges!

    She still continues to make law in the state of colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenscout View Post
    They should be focusing on old people sorry Bob


    When I bought my brand new shiney red 1961 Chevy Impala hard top, the first thing I did was install seat belts. Back then there were no seat belts in vehicles unless you installed them yourself. I had been to many many stock car races at Soldier Field in Chicago and saw some nasty wrecks and the drivers almost always walked off. The vast majority of those drivers claimed seat belts saved their asses. So, we have been wearing the belts since 61 and although it's sometimes a pain in the ass to be so confined with these dang belts, especially during Winter with heavy coats on, we just bite the bullet and wear them anyhow and will continue doing so.
    Of course, we do not HAVE to wear them - we can just pay the penalty if we chose not to and get caught. If someone absolutely insists on not wearing these belts, they had just better be extremely careful to comply with ALL traffic laws.

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    I was T-boned in a patrol car while going code 3 (lights and sirens) to a call. The person that hit me didn't slow down at all and never even saw me. The speed limit is 45 MPH and investigators believe that is at least how fast she was going. I was wearing my seat belt and if I wasn't my head would have smashed into glass, then into an AR 15 barrel. I walked away with a sore back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthewall81 View Post
    If I do not want to wear my seat belt, I should not be required too do so. I could careless about the statistics, if I want to do something that is not harming or infringing upon another persons rights, I should be able to decide what I want to do.

    "laws are usually created because some people can not think for themselves so as a result everyone must suffer." This quote sounds like something Hitler would say.
    The government can't make you wear a seatbelt. If you get caught without it you pay the tax and can continue to not wear it. It doesnt show up on your driving record and you won't lose your driver license for it so they don't hold it against you... Good for you. Sounds like natural selection still has some work to do in your gene pool.

    I for one think we have too many laws. Unfortunatly since we have people in society that show poor judgement and think they don't have any responsibility to society then the legislators feel they have to protect us from them. Everyone suffers from regulation. I don't see how that sounds like something Hitler would say. Perhaps you were making a poor attempt to insult me. Unfortunatly you only made yourself look less intelligent than your previous post did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmeis View Post
    Driving a motor vehicle is a privilege and not a right, therefore does not impose on your freedoms. Just like speeding or careless driving are not forms of freedom.

    The government looks at transportation as a high risk activity and in order to reduce injury and fatality statistics they enact regulations to make it safer for the general public. Laws are usually created because some people can not think for themselves so as a result everyone must suffer.
    If I bought the car,pay my taxes for the roads, they can kiss my ass.PrivilegeLOL. The Gov only has power if you let them
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    I would suggest you contact one of the biggest proponets of seat belt laws in the state of colorado. She is an expert on the matter, trust me i know. :P

    If it were you or i we would be facing vehicular manslaughter charges!

    She still continues to make law in the state of colorado.

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    Just looked her up. What a piece of work. Apparently, the laws apply to everybody but her and her family. Does it matter why her passengers weren't in seat belts? No, the law is the law, and in TX, everybody in the vehicle must wear a seat belt. I feel sorry for the Gomez family.

    I personally think seat belt laws are stupid. I always wear mine, but would whether it was the law or not. What does this law accomplish that insurance companies could not? If I ran an insurance company, I would make it policy that if you're not wearing a seat belt, than we wouldn't cover anything that happened as a result of that. That would be enough to make most people want to wear them, and if not, you made that decision for yourself knowing what the consequences could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Actually, you can't be pulled over soley for the seat belt violation; it is a secondary offense. You need to have committed a primary offense first.
    In Colorado that may be the case, but in other states they will pull you over if they don't see a seatbelt across your chest. Of course, those are the same states that will pull you over for talking (not texting) on your cellphone, and will issue DUI tickets for sleeping it off in your backseat rather than driving home from the pub.

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