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  1. 06-05-2012, 14:58 #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by rutz777 View Post
    What if a cop knocked on your door asking to come in and search your house because a neighbor called and said they saw someone suspicious run into your neighborhood?
    In both cases, I'd be inclined to say "As soon as you show me a valid warrant, I'll be happy to let you search. Until then, I do not give my consent." If they pull me out of my car at gunpoint, I'll comply(resistance is futile), but you can be damned sure I'll have a copy of the incident report, names, and badge numbers of all the officers involved, as well as witness statements when I call my lawyer the next morning. Cuffed and detained for 2 hours? Bullshit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    In both cases, I'd be inclined to say "As soon as you show me a valid warrant, I'll be happy to let you search. Until then, I do not give my consent." If they pull me out of my car at gunpoint, I'll comply(resistance is futile), but you can be damned sure I'll have a copy of the incident report, names, and badge numbers of all the officers involved, as well as witness statements when I call my lawyer the next morning. Cuffed and detained for 2 hours? Bullshit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Byte can help me out here, but you can resist unlawful arrest... YMMV.
    It's not arrest, it's "detention", and no, it's not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Byte can help me out here, but you can resist unlawful arrest... YMMV.
    Yep, you can. I would just hate to have an allergic reaction relating to having my ass kicked or being shot...bleeding is not a favorite activity of mine.

    Seriously, if a cop has me at gunpoint, I'm probably not going to attempt to discuss the finer points of the law until the situation deescalates a bit. I realize cops get training for this kind of thing and are supposed to have good trigger discipline, but I would hate to find out differently by being the recipient of a rapid release lead/copper supplement. Right doesn't always have to be right now.
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    The state is the most heavily armed force within a certain territory. That is what they are and our rights are but an illusion used in speeches. If they want something their gonna get it. I would have declined a search of my car and probably would have been beat.
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    Like has been said, I'd refuse consent to search, I'd take good note of everything, as soon as I was released I'd write EVERYTHING down, and call a lawyer immediately. I'd demand names and badge numbers, everything I could get for info, etc. This kind of behavior is exactly why people don't know or understand their rights, and it's BS. Of course they'd probably have arrested me if in my personal vehicle because I always have a loaded firearm in it perfectly legal under CO law and I also have my CCW permit. It'd be a big mess and I'd keep pushing until I walked away with some form of justice. I wouldn't physically resist them but I'd damn sure not make it easy, they'd have to get a warrant or loose their asses in court.

    They had NO right to search those cars up to the point that people gave consent.
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