There are other forums on the internet?

Seriously...m4carbine.net? I can't stand all the super-cool operator types talking ad nauseum about "the chart" and mil-spec this and mil-spec that.

They don't seem to understand the concept of civilian sport/recreational shooters who don't need a "mil-spec, battlefield proven system that will still function after it's been run over by an M1 Abrams, twice, and blown up by a squadron of B52s".

If I never see that site again it'll be too soon.