Political Ramifications of SCOTUS ruling

[DeusExMachina]

Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.

[UncleDave]

Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.

You cannot legislate responsiblity or morality that is the problem with the government getting involved in things that are not their concern.

[hatidua]

You cannot legislate responsiblity or morality that is the problem with the government getting involved in things that are not their concern.

That won't stop both sides of the political aisle from doing just that, for eternity.

[Ronin13]

This brings to mind, what happens when the gooberment decides that my VA coverage for being in the 50%+ club isn't adequate healthcare and starts taxing me? My job doesn't offer healthcare coverage and I hardly ever go to the doctor as it is... WTF? It seems stupid to force people to buy something they won't need.

[00tec]

Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.

You seriously think is is perfectly acceptable that I am being taxed for simply existing?

I carried insurance for 1 year, saw 2 doctors for a shoulder injury. Excluding that, I haven't presented a need to seek healthcare in over a decade. So now, I get to put up a chunk of my paycheck to pay to either buy insurance for myself, or pay the fine to fund medical care needed for those laid off by businesses unloading payroll to pay for Obamacare. Fuckin great. Woohoo!

[mutt]

Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.

You seriously think is is perfectly acceptable that I am being taxed for simply existing?

It's far more than that. You can now be taxed/penalized for not doing/buying something. If congress decides everyone needs to drive a hybrid, but I don't want one, they can tax me for not buying one. I hate the taste of liver but congress decides everyone should eat it - they can tax me for choosing not to eat liver. This has given congress unlimited power. There is nothing they cannot do via coercive taxation that forces people to participate in an existing market, or creates a new market, they then regulate via the commerce clause.

I can see this happening - In the future congress decides in order to curb unsustainable population growth, mass birth control is necessary. Women who choose not to take one of several approved chemical birth control methods provided by government sanctioned corporate suppliers are subject to a 'shared excess population burden' penalty. This penalty will still apply to women who don't plan to have any children or would rather use natural birth control methods allowed by their own conscience/religious teachings. I know there are plenty of you who have religious objections to artificial birth control and family planning. Welcome to the new Amerika.

There is something very wrong happening in this country and John Roberts is no friend to liberty. The ideas of limited government and personal freedom died today.

[MED]

It's far more than that. You can now be taxed/penalized for not doing/buying something. If congress decides everyone needs to drive a hybrid, but I don't want one, they can tax me for not buying one. I hate the taste of liver but congress decides everyone should eat it - they can tax me for choosing not to eat liver. This has given congress unlimited power. There is nothing they cannot do via coercive taxation that forces people to participate in an existing market, or creates a new market, they then regulate via the commerce clause.

I can see this happening - In the future congress decides in order to curb unsustainable population growth, mass birth control is necessary. Women who choose not to take one of several approved chemical birth control methods provided by government sanctioned corporate suppliers are subject to a 'shared excess population burden' penalty. This penalty will still apply to women who don't plan to have any children or would rather use natural birth control methods allowed by their own conscience/religious teachings. I know there are plenty of you who have religious objections to artificial birth control and family planning. Welcome to the new Amerika.

There is something very wrong happening in this country and John Roberts is no friend to liberty. The ideas of limited government and personal freedom died today.

I agree with what you said. The feds did it to bring states inline and now they are going to do it with individuals.

This is absolutely an assault on liberty! Roberts really betrayed us!

[Jer]

Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.

The precedent has also been set that tax is no longer income based (punishing those who work hard) but is now behavioral based. This opens up a whole new can of worms that I do NOT want to see in a few decades if it continues to remain in place. I can't wait until the government decides that because I'm overweight I should pay an 'unhealthy' tax based on whatever THEY decide is healthy. I know people within an 'acceptable' BMI that drink, smoke and all sorts of fun things that make them unable to keep pace with me on anything physical. Do you think the gubment will be willing to sit down with each individual tax payer to make sure they're healthy or not? Either way, we're straying awfully far from a free nation on this one. Shit's going to get real on this one...

Besides... who is the single largest drain on the health and tax systems right now... people who don't pay tax. You see a philosophical problem here?