Park County is in a Stage II Fire Bans recreational shooting WHY?

[yamaha]

ok I know some one is going to grill me for this example but go for it, I understand the danger I dont want my backyard on fire I live blocks off the national forest and five minuts from the range. but mythbusters showed shooting a gas tank trying everything they can they could not get an explosion or even a simple fire. danger is low but exist I am irritated but will have to get over this I want to shoot my guns and my new unfired 1911 and use my new 22 target dam where is the rain do a rain dance everyone

[MED]

So, where do I go now? All of the places I shoot are in Stage II.

Suggestions?

[Chad4000]

Ease up on the tin foil, it's f'ing dry out there. All it take's is one idiot with some tracers or some tannerite and we get another wild fire right now.

I thought those things were essentially banned anyway... I know tracers are...

[00tec]

I thought those things were essentially banned anyway... I know tracers are...

Regular Tannerite is not banned. USFS consensus is to not allow it during any fire restrictions. The way tannerite detonates does not produce enough heat to start a fire itself. In fact, it removes the oxygen from the area and creates water vapor. Now the .22lr sensitive stuff produced by some places containers sulfur, which can cause fires.

[SA Friday]

I started a small fire a year two ago by shooting into a stump. I had fired several rounds into the stump when I noticed a glowing piece of debris arc out of the stump and land in the grass about 50 yards from the stump I was shooting. Next thing...there was smoke and a small grass fire. We put it out quickly but it could've been a real problem had I been alone. It burned about 20 square feet before we could even get to it.

I think someone had been firing tracers into the stump and one of my rounds impacted the tracer round and ignited it. I don't know what else it could've been.

Heat. Dry wood can go up pretty easy. Dry powdery wood even easier. How hot is a bullet when it comes out of a barrel? I don't know, but I suspect a bullet combined with friction from penetration can be hot enough to set of very dry grass or wood fiber. It has to be just as hot if not hotter than the brass when it ejects out of the gun and that's hot enough to cause 2nd and 3rd degree burns from some guns.

We had a grass fire at BLGC a year or two ago at the 600 yard range. It wasn't incendiary rounds either, just plain old regular rifle ammo.

There is no conspiracy here. The entire Rocky Mountain range from the Mexican boarder to the Canadian boarder is a tinder box right now. It sucks not shooting, but that sucks less than some shooter starting another fire and people losing their home from it.

[XDMan]

So, where do I go now? All of the places I shoot are in Stage II.

Suggestions?

Buffalo Creek Gun Club east of Bailey. Open to the public on weekends for $15 a day. They just improved the short range this winter. Long range is 200-600 yds. Latest club bulletin (out this week) does state no fires, campfires, steel targets or rounds at this time. http://www.bcgc.com/

Some competitions next month. Check the website calendar for these as they will close one of the two ranges depending on what the event is. Web site also has map & directions.

[SA Friday]

ok I know some one is going to grill me for this example but go for it, I understand the danger I dont want my backyard on fire I live blocks off the national forest and five minuts from the range. but mythbusters showed shooting a gas tank trying everything they can they could not get an explosion or even a simple fire. danger is low but exist I am irritated but will have to get over this I want to shoot my guns and my new unfired 1911 and use my new 22 target dam where is the rain do a rain dance everyone

The gasoline example isn't really valid. Flammable liquids ignite from their vapors. The liquid itself is very hard to ignite. Contain the gas in a tank and it's very safe. Wood and grass fibers on the other hand won't disassociate the heat from the source like a liquid will. They are solids and therefore react differently during the oxidation-reduction reaction. Their molecules are not free flowing like the liquids and so the molecules nearest the heat source retain transferred heat and the head accumulates. Also, the liquid stops oxygen from the air getting to the heat source. Solids like grass and wood (which is nothing more than a lattice of xylem and phloem tube systems that are full of air after they dry) readily have access to the surrounding air.

Fuel, ready access to oxygen, retained heat... Fire.

[SpikeMike]

Steel core Russian ammo can spark a fire if you're hitting granite by accident. That whole area up there is almost all granite, not to mention people shooting BP which will throw sparks.

Anything that can potentionally spark a fire shouldn't be used up there right now. Too darned dry. I really do not believe it is a Liberal plot to take away your shooting rights and gun rights, I mean..seriously? Are people that paranoid?

[MED]

Buffalo Creek Gun Club east of Bailey. Open to the public on weekends for $15 a day. They just improved the short range this winter. Long range is 200-600 yds. Latest club bulletin (out this week) does state no fires, campfires, steel targets or rounds at this time. http://www.bcgc.com/

Some competitions next month. Check the website calendar for these as they will close one of the two ranges depending on what the event is. Web site also has map & directions.

I saw that they were open; I need to be become a member...I just haven't done it yet.

[merl]

so all public land on northern front range is closed to shooting until further notice. including pawnee.

anywhere to shoot around longmont, preferably with >100y