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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    The US has elements of a lot of different economic models. I'm saying that one reason that people are for the Act is to keep people from dying (pre-exsting conditions). A dent in your car doesn't eventually make your whole car fall apart.
    The sick man who can afford to get well only temporarily burdens his family. The sick man who cannot afford to get well- in our current society- will now burden the rest of us forever. Everything must be done to the betterment of the state comrades... stop this dissent and get back to work for the betterment of the state! Everything will be taken care of!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    The US has elements of a lot of different economic models. I'm saying that one reason that people are for the Act is to keep people from dying (pre-exsting conditions). A dent in your car doesn't eventually make your whole car fall apart.

    Speaking of horrible analogies....

    Insurance is not the end all be all. Just because you have insurance doesn't mean you are healthy, people who have insurance die everyday. You are trying to make it sound as if people who don't have insurance can't get treatment and you are barking up the wrong tree. We know the truth and we see the big picture in all of this. Put down the kool-aid and put a band-aid on that bleeding heart of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I guess the difference is your car doesn't die.
    I guess the real difference is health insurance doesn't equal health care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    I guess the real difference is health insurance doesn't equal health care.
    Interesting. Can you elaborate on this?

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    Just because everybody has health insurance doesn't mean they can get adequate health care. Simple supply and demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Just because everybody has health insurance doesn't mean they can get adequate health care. Simple supply and demand.
    Good point. I wonder what the supply chain for new health providers looks like at this time. Might be time to switch careers.

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    Comrades! Has no one realized the increased burden this will already place on our healthcare system? Sure insurance companies could potentially make more money off this, ya know, because between now and 2014 everyone is gonna run out and get health insurance so they don't get taxed, increasing the customer base- but also putting more people into the system and if you got it, better use it. I anticipate longer lines at doctors offices and hospitals.

    I'd like to see what it's going to cost an average healthy person a year for insurance, and then see if it stacks up to that $95 tax. I'm still not happy, it seems like we're getting that treatment we all dreaded. "The beatings will continue until morale improves!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Has no one realized the increased burden this will already place on our healthcare system?
    The goobernment sure has, in fact they are counting on it. This is the entire point of this legislation. It's not to make sure everybody has insurance so everyone can survive as many ignorant liberals want you to believe, they know damn well that no one is refused treatment as is. They are banking on insurance failing. Then they get to take over health care in this country which is something like 18% of the economy. You think the lines at the DMV are long, wait till they take over health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUC303 View Post
    The goobernment sure has, in fact they are counting on it. This is the entire point of this legislation. It's not to make sure everybody has insurance so everyone can survive as many ignorant liberals want you to believe, they know damn well that no one is refused treatment as is. They are banking on insurance failing. Then they get to take over health care in this country which is something like 18% of the economy. You think the lines at the DMV are long, wait till they take over health care.
    That is what I fear the most... I guess we must prepare for the apocalypse...
    I saw this quote recently in an email but can't attribute to who wrote it, but it was written post WWII Germany, that's all I know.
    "When the cemeteries can no longer sustain the rotting corpses, when the mortuaries are overflowing with the freshly fallen, when the dead begin to pile on the streets and the festering corpses begin to rot, a plague unlike any the world has ever seen will sweep the land and cleanse the face of this world... that will be the end of humanity- when there are too many sick for the few doctors to tend to, when the population of takers outweighs the population of givers by too much of a margin to sustain. It will not be by debris falling from the sky, some great and terrible weapon we created, no, we will destroy ourselves in a way that will sneak up on us- we will invite the death, the destruction, and the pestilence when we ask our betters to care for us; for we had become lazy, sodden, and complacent. I am just thankful it was stopped by those who still hold dear the freedoms and personal responsibility that disallows the socialist tyranny from controlling the world as Hitler had dreamed."
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    The impact on small business will be devastating.

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