Obama cut air tankers...really?

[Ridge]

It's bullshit like this that got me to loathe arfcom before I was banned. Some of you guys in here only want an echo chamber. Any differing opinions or new ideas are bad because they don't fit in with your preconcieved ides.

How about instead of us fucking attacking each other over petty bullshit, we work together and use the shooting hobby to find common ground?

Assuming half you loudmouths even own a gun anymore.

[sniper7]

It's bullshit like this that got me to loathe arfcom before I was banned. Some of you guys in here only want an echo chamber. Any differing opinions or new ideas are bad because they don't fit in with your preconcieved ides.

How about instead of us fucking attacking each other over petty bullshit, we work together and use the shooting hobby to find common ground?

Assuming half you loudmouths even own a gun anymore.

it takes more than voicing your opinion to get banned from arfcom. if it were that simple they wouldn't have any members.

The reason Rucker is getting it from all sides is because he is just like ERNO and crew... It is very easy to spot a liberal. Everyone wants to give them a piece of their mind on here, explain their stupidity, yet they don't get it, don't understand, won't even try. that is why they get ignored.

As to "petty bullshit"...how is this petty bullshit? we are talking about our daily lives being affected, our bottom dollars, our kids future. those are not something I would classify as "petty bullshit".

[Ridge]

it takes more than voicing your opinion to get banned from arfcom. if it were that simple they wouldn't have any members.

I got banned for wishing everyone a Happy Zombie Jesus day during Easter last year.

You can totally get banned for voicing your opinion, as long as the right people disagree with it.

[sniper7]

I got banned for wishing everyone a Happy Zombie Jesus day during Easter last year.

You can totally get banned for voicing your opinion, as long as the right people disagree with it.

arfcom aside, do you still think that all these issues are "petty bullshit", and we should welcome rucker with open arms? He can voice his opinions all he wants, but around here they are going to come with some serious backlash.

you telling the guys around here to not rip him and play nice is equivalent to someone walking into a gay bar and start calling them all derogatory names. yeah...that person can voice their opinion but they aren't going to like the results.

[Ridge]

arfcom aside, do you still think that all these issues are "petty bullshit", and we should welcome rucker with open arms? He can voice his opinions all he wants, but around here they are going to come with some serious backlash.

you telling the guys around here to not rip him and play nice is equivalent to someone walking into a gay bar and start calling them all derogatory names. yeah...that person can voice their opinion but they aren't going to like the results.

This is a forum about guns. Not about politics. He likes guns, we should welcome him. Fuck politics. You want that, go join the RNC forums.

[sniper7]

This is a forum about guns. Not about politics. He likes guns, we should welcome him. Fuck politics. You want that, go join the RNC forums.

so then why do we have a political forum? Why have you responded to threads in that political forum? Why do you feel the need to defend another member who is fully capable of typing out his own statements just like everyone else, he can ignore them like everyone else, he has to play under the same rules and guidelines like everyone else?

If you don't like politics, don't come in and play. If you don't like to see rucker get attacked on issues that can have strong feelings, you are more than welcome to not read the threads or the responses.

and if want to take a further look, we also have forums for vehicles, hunting, pictures, jokes, survival, knives. and we have dealers that sell things that are gun related and some that are not. I would have to say this is more than a forum about JUST guns.

[Ridge]

so then why do we have a political forum? Why have you responded to threads in that political forum? Why do you feel the need to defend another member who is fully capable of typing out his own statements just like everyone else, he can ignore them like everyone else, he has to play under the same rules and guidelines like everyone else?

If you don't like politics, don't come in and play. If you don't like to see rucker get attacked on issues that can have strong feelings, you are more than welcome to not read the threads or the responses.

and if want to take a further look, we also have forums for vehicles, hunting, pictures, jokes, survival, knives. and we have dealers that sell things that are gun related and some that are not. I would have to say this is more than a forum about JUST guns.

Why don't we move all these threads to the political forum? Why do you feel the need to attack another member simply because you and he don't have the same ideologies? What rules has he broken? None. Do the rules say anything about harassing other members?

I came into this thread to point out that there was nothing political about OP, that it was a safety concern. My first email responses to it are you being an ass to this guy.

We have sub forums for those purposes, as you have pointed out. The question is, why do people continue to post this shit in GD when there is a place it should go?

[Ah Pook]

This is a forum about guns. Not about politics. He likes guns, we should welcome him. Fuck politics. You want that, go join the RNC forums.

I'm inclined to agree.


Rather than dog pile on Rucker for a dessenting view, does anyone have a credible source to refute the Wikipedia statements?

[Rucker61]

I'm inclined to agree.


Rather than dog pile on Rucker for a dessenting view, does anyone have a credible source to refute the Wikipedia statements?

Great question, and I comment with the proviso that Wikipedia isn't necessarily the best cite. However, it's handy, and easy enough to check the cites they list at the bottom.