SHTF Groups

[Omicron]

I'm in a "group", and while I won't get into specifics I can say that it just developed naturally through conversation with close friends.

Here are some issues we've encountered.
1. Family members "cool, we're coming to your house when SHTF. We won't contribute anything because we don't believe S will ever HTF, but if it does we'll be knocking on your door.
2. 2 members seem to be financing the entire operation. It's quickly become a "from each according to his ability" operation.
3. Settling on standards. When we formed, the springfield XD was the chosen pistol, but as time wore on everyone somehow acquired HK USPs. Now 3 people are in a situation where they have the "group standard" but the majority of the group has moved on to bigger and better things (as the group expanded and took in family members). Ammunition? 55gr, 62gr....etc.
4. Distractions/finite resources. Most acutely seen with energy choices. Should we go with Solar? 20k+ longer term viability.. Propane generator run intermittently?$3k (we have the generator, this would be an extra 1000 gallon tank and fill) Mid-term (up to 1 year) Coal heating? Wood? Propane? etc. These debates have cost a lot of time and energy.

Good insights indeed. Wondering how you've "encountered" these? Do you mean you've discussed them so you're ready for them? Not playing with semantics, just don't see how you could have encountered these situations unless in a real STHF situation.

[Goodburbon]

Good insights indeed. Wondering how you've "encountered" these? Do you mean you've discussed them so you're ready for them? Not playing with semantics, just don't see how you could have encountered these situations unless in a real STHF situation.

Ok you got me. They are problems we've had while making decisions as a group.

[roberth]

The problem is in finding people you can talk about SHTF honestly with, then choose a leader and leadership structure, then come up with a training plan, then finding the time to train. Much easier said than done.

It must be a cohesive group with clearly communicated, commonly shared, deep values. Think back to the old communities of the West in our country's early days!

I'm in a "group", and while I won't get into specifics I can say that it just developed naturally through conversation with close friends.

Here are some issues we've encountered.
1. Family members "cool, we're coming to your house when SHTF. We won't contribute anything because we don't believe S will ever HTF, but if it does we'll be knocking on your door.
2. 2 members seem to be financing the entire operation. It's quickly become a "from each according to his ability" operation.
3. Settling on standards. When we formed, the springfield XD was the chosen pistol, but as time wore on everyone somehow acquired HK USPs. Now 3 people are in a situation where they have the "group standard" but the majority of the group has moved on to bigger and better things (as the group expanded and took in family members). Ammunition? 55gr, 62gr....etc.
4. Distractions/finite resources. Most acutely seen with energy choices. Should we go with Solar? 20k+ longer term viability.. Propane generator run intermittently?$3k (we have the generator, this would be an extra 1000 gallon tank and fill) Mid-term (up to 1 year) Coal heating? Wood? Propane? etc. These debates have cost a lot of time and energy.

Excellent points all.

Trust and trusting members to do the agreed upon thing
Equality and by this I mean every member must make a significant contribution, no slackers, freeloaders, or cheapskates.
The ability to say NO to people, even family who just expect you to help them. This might mean emphasizing your NO with force.
Skillset crosstraining - some people will be naturally better at some things but everyone can learn a little of everything.

I'm sure I missed a few things.

Thank you for the insight Goodburbon.