Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

[Ronin13]

I'm not sure why you found what Jordan wrote offensive. I agree with him. I don't expect anything extra, and neither should you, IMHO.

Oh I never do, I just expect people to recognize and respect the lifestyle and sacrifice that comes with serving, and to support our men and women in uniform. No special treatment, just don't spit on them, talk bad about them and think that they are the cause of the wars we're in. Politicians declare war, the troops are just the ones who fight it.

[Jer]

Oh I never do, I just expect people to recognize and respect the lifestyle and sacrifice that comes with serving, and to support our men and women in uniform. No special treatment, just don't spit on them, talk bad about them and think that they are the cause of the wars we're in. Politicians declare war, the troops are just the ones who fight it.

Laws that give employers benefit for hiring veterans and federal dollars advertising to hire a veteran and laws that make claiming to be a veteran feel an awful lot like special treatment. I know if it were me I wouldn't expect or even want to be given special treatment for my choice. I don't expect special treatment for any of my other choices in life so that's just me. It doesn't set well with me when I'm trying to find work and I see tax payer funded commercials telling prospective employers to not hire me by saying they should hire a veteran. There are also plenty of opportunities where you start off with a fairly sizable advantage just for being a veteran. I still show tons of respect to veterans and defend them anytime someone says something negative but I think we're getting dangerously close to making a protected class out of them and I'm not sure why.

[HBARleatherneck]

double post

[HBARleatherneck]

maybe people who dont serve, shouldnt be full citizens. you get all the benefits of citzenship, but did nothing to earn it, seems like special treatment.

i hate non vets.

[Scanker19]

maybe people who dont serve, shouldnt be full citizens. you get all the benefits of citzenship, but did nothing to earn it, seems like special treatment.

i hate non vets.

Yeah fuck the constitution!

[HBARleatherneck]

ok, how about an ammendment to the constitution. All able bodied American born males, will serve their country for a period or at least 2 years.

compulsory service.


i love the dumbasses who talk non stop about their rights, they think they are patriots for voting for ron paul. they wave a flag and they think they are patriots. put your money with your mouth is.

[Scanker19]

That doesn't sound like freedom at all. More like serivetude. Maybe if we would fight a war where our freedom was actually threatened a la WWII. How many wars have we fought for our "freedom" Korea? Vietnam? Gulf? OIF? Maybe OEF until it into rebuilding.

Soldiers make a choice to Join unless they were drafted. So the draft is what you are saying. Women should have to be drafted too. Nobody forced them to join they did so on their own free will. To me that doesn't warrant any special treat above and beyond their benefits they already get for their service.

[Jer]

i hate non vets.

You make that painfully obvious. You're better than everyone, we get it.

[Jer]

ok, how about an ammendment to the constitution. All able bodied American born males, will serve their country for a period or at least 2 years.

compulsory service.


i love the dumbasses who talk non stop about their rights, they think they are patriots for voting for ron paul. they wave a flag and they think they are patriots. put your money with your mouth is.

Now anyone who thinks their rights are important that hasn't served in the military is a dumbass? That's clever thinking right there.

[Jer]

That doesn't sound like freedom at all. More like serivetude. Maybe if we would fight a war where our freedom was actually threatened a la WWII. How many wars have we fought for our "freedom" Korea? Vietnam? Gulf? OIF? Maybe OEF until it into rebuilding.

Bingo! Just because I haven't supported ANY of the wars in my lifetime doesn't mean I don't love my country and wouldn't die for it. If we truly had a threat then it would be a different story. Let China or Iran or whoever decide they want to try to put a military on our soil and watch what all the 'dumbasses' as you call them do to defend this country. Playing world police isn't something I support and I personally happen to think we're currently doing more harm than good to our national security with what we're currently doing everywhere. So, in my own way, I AM doing my part for the country I love by NOT serving in the military even though I think I would do quite well. My political beliefs don't skew my support of our troops.