New job

[reno316]

It took me about 4 hours, 3 trips to Lowe's, 2 calls to my brother, and I only threw 1 wrench across the basement.

Yeah, my father has an old axiom about "There is no home improvement job that can be completed in less than three trips to Home Depot."

[Wulf202]

tradesman get pissy this time of year.... 110 degrees next to the last ac I was servicing and the Renter was mad it was 80 inside.

it usually takes me 1.5 hrs to do a water heater assuming you don't have to haul it off in buckets.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

The whirlpool, state, ken more water heater is the very worst water heater you can get. Google that shit. As a home owner if you replace it the best tank available to the public is the GE from home depot. And yes a permit is required by law. Also if our house burns down, they prove the fire was caused by improper installation and no permit was pulled, Insurance can wash their hands of your claim.

[Wulf202]

rheem are available thru hd supply solutions

[Goodburbon]

$700 is cheap. Because you work in an office you think your time is worth more than someone who has a blue collar? I won't even touch a water heater install on the side for no less than $400 labor. We charge $1400 for a plumbers grade tank at my work. Which is about $750-1000 less when you compare apples to apples with other reputable companies like the one hat employs me. Why don't you call applewood, Ben Franklin, etc then give that plumber a kiss when you give him a check for $700.

Don't forget you get what you pay for.

I can't say how much I disagree with this ethic. It is not worth $200/hour to install a water heater for someone.

You get what you pay for.....how about a reacharound at those rates?

[Robb]

I really don't get it either. It's 4 connections, and that's counting the vent on top. The hard part is up and down the stairs if it's in a conventional basementwhich is all I know. I imagine an appt complex on the 3rd floor is a b*tch.
I should look into doing this on the side. Even installing them at half price, that kind of money would really do wonders for my ammo fund.

[MED]

I can't say how much I disagree with this ethic. It is not worth $200/hour to install a water heater for someone.

You get what you pay for.....how about a reacharound at those rates?

It took me all of about an hour to change out my hot water heater. There is no way I would be pay somebody $400+ in labor to to this.

...the whole reason why DIY is so big now...people are tired of taking it up the tailpipe.

I had Applewood come out on a routine furnace clean/inspection. I threw them out of my house when their quote was 3x the cost of every inspection I had up to that point.

[Wulf202]

trucks aren't free. gas insurance. workers comp shop rent.

even then it should be about $75/ hr.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I can't say how much I disagree with this ethic. It is not worth $200/hour to install a water heater for someone.

You get what you pay for.....how about a reacharound at those rates?

Sure when would you like me to come put a water heater in?

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

It took me all of about an hour to change out my hot water heater. There is no way I would be pay somebody $400+ in labor to to this.

...the whole reason why DIY is so big now...people are tired of taking it up the tailpipe.

I had Applewood come out on a routine furnace clean/inspection. I threw them out of my house when their quote was 3x the cost of every inspection I had up to that point.

You're right. And when I go to your house and see the craptacular job you did on your heater it makes me laugh. Figured into my labor is all my personal tools, gas, weekend is after hours for me, new water shut off, gas shut off, water flex connectors, gas flex connectors, expansion tank connection, changing the wye to double wall, increasing the flue size to 4". So I probably make right at $200 cash profit, and it takes me right at 2.75 hours to do the job the RIGHT way. I should have been a little bit more specific as to what is included. But I didnt think it would inspire a fountain of tears.