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    It's distressing to me that people attribute so much power to POTUS; almost as if you want the office to be that of king. The office is just a tool for the much, much larger corrupted system. If we elect some clown that is able to crown himself king and "end America" like you keep regurgitating, is he to blame, or the system and citizenry that allowed it?

    I can't believe you guys are still debating so vehemently this illusion of choice we're all handed. It does not matter who you and I "choose" (and I use that term loosely); the result is the same. There is no organization, private or public, in which those in power would ever allow something to happen that would reduce their degree of control, or retard its growth. You and I will never [peacefully] recover freedom that has been usurped by those who write the rules by which we may recover it.

    Republican, Democrat, Libertarian; it does not matter. The particular guy (or gal) with the title of POTUS is not the problem, nor the solution. Know your enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    It's distressing to me that people attribute so much power to POTUS; almost as if you want the office to be that of king. The office is just a tool for the much, much larger corrupted system. If we elect some clown that is able to crown himself king and "end America" like you keep regurgitating, is he to blame, or the system and citizenry that allowed it?

    I can't believe you guys are still debating so vehemently this illusion of choice we're all handed. It does not matter who you and I "choose" (and I use that term loosely); the result is the same. There is no organization, private or public, in which those in power would ever allow something to happen that would reduce their degree of control, or retard its growth. You and I will never [peacefully] recover freedom that has been usurped by those who write the rules by which we may recover it.

    Republican, Democrat, Libertarian; it does not matter. The particular guy (or gal) with the title of POTUS is not the problem, nor the solution. Know your enemy.
    Given the use of Executive Orders by the last few presidents to sidestep the legislative process, the office of President has become exponentially more potent...

    Note that Bush II and Obama have issued more EOs than all previous presidents combined...

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    ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?

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