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    I don't think any of us think Mitt is the perfect guy...far from it. But he would be an improvement. And that's what we have to focus on, improving things even if it's baby steps. Those who won't vote for Mitt because he is not perfect and they want to "change the system" are trying to bite off too big a chunk...take too big a step, that is frankly out of reach. Keep trying to take the big leap to fix the system and you will keep missing...gaining ZERO ground. Take a smaller step and at least have better chance of getting closer to the goal.

    IMO, one more attempt at a big leap (few supporting a 3rd party who can't win) which results in one more miss (O'Bummer winning) might just put the system in a place where we can't take it back ever. This current POTUS will damage this country to such an extent if he is reelected that it will take more than a few election cycles to fix...it might never be fixed.

    Ladies and gentlemen, we have to gain some ground, any ground. Spreading our votes out so BO wins ensures we won't gain ANY. Compartmentalization. Focus on a short term, attainable goal. Once we get that, focus on a new goal. There are battles and there are wars...

    In other words, we can't go straight to Berlin, we have to battle through the rest of Europe first.

    We can't go straight to Japan, we have to take the Aleutians, Marshall, Turk and Palau first.

    Small victories.

    Vote Mitt and get a small victory. Then we can reorganize, re-energize and take bigger steps over the next 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Vote Mitt and get a small victory. Then we can reorganize, re-energize and take bigger steps over the next 4 years.
    I keep seeing this sentiment from you guys that want everyone to band together and support the guy who might be better than what we have. What's your plan then? After November are you all going to actually start actively campaigning for a Libertarian President in 2016? Or is this just rhetoric that helps you sleep at night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I keep seeing this sentiment from you guys that want everyone to band together and support the guy who might be better than what we have. What's your plan then? After November are you all going to actually start actively campaigning for a Libertarian President in 2016? Or is this just rhetoric that helps you sleep at night?
    hahaha rhetoric helps sheep sleep at night...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I keep seeing this sentiment from you guys that want everyone to band together and support the guy who might be better than what we have. What's your plan then? After November are you all going to actually start actively campaigning for a Libertarian President in 2016? Or is this just rhetoric that helps you sleep at night?
    I supported Paul financially (donations) , verbally everyday and visually (stickers and signs). It didn't work. Now it's plan B.

    I am not going to get tunnel vision watching the Maginot Line while I get flanked through the Ardennes. Got to beat BO even if Plan A didn't work.

    PS - just to be clear, Yes, I will again actively campaign for Libertarians for the next 4 years and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    I supported Paul financially (donations) , verbally everyday and visually (stickers and signs). It didn't work. Now it's plan B.

    I am not going to get tunnel vision watching the Maginot Line while I get flanked through the Ardennes. Got to beat BO even if Plan A didn't work.

    PS - just to be clear, Yes, I will again actively campaign for Libertarians for the next 4 years and beyond.
    I appreciate this. I too gave to Paul's campaign, and I will never stop supporting his cause and supporting the spread of liberty, but this election cycle has basically been decided before its even begun. Plan B sucks, but it's better than trying to take the morning-after pill...
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