Man arrested for bringing gun into Thornton movie theater

[Ronin13]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycot...41509032556461

Let's see how many likes nation wide we can get........ Then maybe we can make a difference, once the movie theaters get the idea....

Just a thought...

Liked and shared!

It seems there are two schools of thought on this and let's address this issue with cool, calm, and collected rational heads, shall we?
Group A says: "OC is a right, we should be allowed to exercise it regardless of how others 'feel'."
Group B says: "Yes, OC is a right, we should exercise our rights, but sometimes the sheep get scared when they see the sheepdog has teeth, so maybe the sheepdog, in some cases, should keep his teeth hidden until they are needed to protect the sheep."

Still with me here?
I think the masses are fearful, stupid, and don't realize that 9 times out of 10 you won't know a criminal is armed until it's too late. If you see a gun openly displayed, then there is a very good chance it's not a bad guy and they mean you no harm. HOWEVER... the masses, again, are fvcking stupid, and they'll cause a fuss over your OCing, thus adding to the stigma "another nut carrying a gun!" Yes they need to be educated. I support OC, I do it from time to time, but from a tactical standpoint, I'd rather have the element of surprise on my side and not be the "target" for an aggressor- I'd rather him not know I'm carrying until it's sending lead his way or being pressed against his head with the demand that he drop his gun and get on the ground.
YMMV, MTFBWY.

[10mm-man]

I support OC, I do it from time to time, but from a tactical standpoint, I'd rather have the element of surprise on my side and not be the "target" for an aggressor- I'd rather him not know I'm carrying until it's sending lead his way or being pressed against his head with the demand that hey drop his gun and get on the ground.
YMMV, MTFBWY.

^^^^^

[kanekutter05]

YMMV, MTFBWY.

I am only 25...but I feel old because I had to google what the hell those two acronyms were

[10mm-man]

http://www.tonysrants.com/thornton/s...y-16-shooting/

This link explains a lot about this case.

Looks like he was working towards his retirement and just got it- Civil Lawsuit coming I am sure...

[Whistler]

Liked and shared!

It seems there are two schools of thought on this and let's address this issue with cool, calm, and collected rational heads, shall we?
Group A says: "OC is a right, we should be allowed to exercise it regardless of how others 'feel'."
Group B says: "Yes, OC is a right, we should exercise our rights, but sometimes the sheep get scared when they see the sheepdog has teeth, so maybe the sheepdog, in some cases, should keep his teeth hidden until they are needed to protect the sheep."

Still with me here?
I think the masses are fearful, stupid, and don't realize that 9 times out of 10 you won't know a criminal is armed until it's too late. If you see a gun openly displayed, then there is a very good chance it's not a bad guy and they mean you no harm. HOWEVER... the masses, again, are fvcking stupid, and they'll cause a fuss over your OCing, thus adding to the stigma "another nut carrying a gun!" Yes they need to be educated. I support OC, I do it from time to time, but from a tactical standpoint, I'd rather have the element of surprise on my side and not be the "target" for an aggressor- I'd rather him not know I'm carrying until it's sending lead his way or being pressed against his head with the demand that he drop his gun and get on the ground.
YMMV, MTFBWY.

You lost me Ronin...

We should not OC so that the "sheep" don't mistake us for a criminal but you also say "9 times out of 10 you won't know a criminal is armed until it's too late" which would imply criminals CC but the sheep would be scared if you OC and think you a criminal but then if you CC....

Why should their feelings be any more important than mine? If I decide camo hurts my feelings or makes me afraid are you going to stop wearing camo?!? Of course not you're going to tell me don't look or get over my whiny-ass self. Ridiculous example yes but no less germane.

I'm completely lost on the idea that a criminal (aggressor) or anyone sane would target an obviously armed individual and I think I call BS on that one. The value proposition changes when you have to risk your life.

I'm still chewing on the "tactical advantage" considering I'm seldom (well never actually) in any situation that could be remotely considered "tactical".

I'm afraid I simply don't agree OC should be avoided at costs because it might raise the ire of the antis and prompt them to call for greater restrictions. Mostly because they are going to do that anyway. If you shy from the confrontation you lend legitimacy "if it's not wrong why are you hiding?", change your own behavior as evidenced by this thread "oh noes them sheeps is looking at me!" and you further the already held perception OC is not needed. In fact I'd go so far as to suggest it may provide MORE fodder to the antis that gun owners agree with them OC "makes people uncomfortable" or is unnecessary if you hold a CHP.

If I OC or CC I am doing nothing wrong and letting them change or even influence my decision gives them power. They are going to fight to ban guns forever no matter what so fight to keep them! Don't give in to the pressure, it's tough to stand for something.

[Squeeze]

Above is the article. This is one of the reasons why I am NOT an "OC" fan. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I know I am beating a dead horse here and it's all ready been mentioned 100 times...but here it is: concealed gives me the element of surprise and opportunity to act rather than being the gunman's first victim.

Now, I don't condone how LE treated this guy and I hope the charges get dropped, however; this was a really stupid move on his part. He has a CCW, so why OC in a theater with the recent tragedy still an open wound to Colorado? Really dumb move. Rant over.

[Whistler]

I think this gentleman said it more eloquently than I could hope to;

Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, which is the wish of our enemies, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that "if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom." It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.

’Tis a strange species of generosity which requires a return infinitely more valuable than anything it could have bestowed; that demands as a reward for a defense of our property a surrender of those inestimable privileges, to the arbitrary will of vindictive tyrants, which alone give value to that very property.

[tonantius]

I read through all of this thread. Whew! Long thread. I think it is great that everyone can state their opinions. Now I will take a stab at it.

First off, the freaking public regardless of the timing should not freak out when someone open carries and it is properly holstered. We have too many New Yorkers and Californicators here that are trying to mess up our western heritage.

Yes, I do not normally OC except at the range, or hunting, or at home. I usually CCW to keep the sheeple from freaking out. But they OC all the time in Arizona and no one freaks out. We need the same attitude here.

I commend Maples for being brave enough to do it. He is trying to make a point. I hope he had a legal strategy in mind.

Yes, others screwed up California. But California has been lost for awhile and there is no hope to get it back. Colorado is moving down the same road if we keep electing democrats to office. Stop it! If you are not registered to vote, get registered and get your friends to do the same. Vote for the leading true gun-friendly candidate.

Thanks

[meuxse]

Looks like he was working towards his retirement and just got it- Civil Lawsuit coming I am sure...

Well at least he was taken into custody without incident. I hope that gets mentioned more. Without incident. He certainly wasn't a "gun nut" out of control.

[SuperiorDG]

Those are some mighty big words there.

I think this gentleman said it more eloquently than I could hope to;

Quote:
Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, which is the wish of our enemies, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that "if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom." It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.

Quote:
’Tis a strange species of generosity which requires a return infinitely more valuable than anything it could have bestowed; that demands as a reward for a defense of our property a surrender of those inestimable privileges, to the arbitrary will of vindictive tyrants, which alone give value to that very property.