Bakery Faces Boycott for Refusing to Make Gay Wedding Cake

[Rooskibar03]

So how the majority votes is always right, moral and ethical?

Who are you to determine what is moral and ethical? If you want to be technical the nation was founded on Christian values and morals, which are the basis for the founding documents.

The majority of this nation supports the definition of marriage as it stands. That is what makes this country great. We The People rule and dictate how we choose to live. As much as the progressives want to take this control away from us it will not happen.

[Rucker61]

Who are you to determine what is moral and ethical? If you want to be technical the nation was founded on Christian values and morals, which are the basis for the founding documents.

That's nice of you to believe that, but it doesn't make it true. Or the right thing to do. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, not a Theist. "In God We Trust" and "under God" are relatively new additions to US mottos and the pledge. I can agree that this country had a lot of Christianity absorbed into the founding documents, but it was not the basis. I don't see Christ mentioned at all, and the only references to a deity were the seemingly unChristian terms "Nature's God" and "Creator".

The majority of this nation supports the definition of marriage as it stands.

That also isn't necessarily true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_..._United_States

That is what makes this country great. We The People rule and dictate how we choose to live. As much as the progressives want to take this control away from us it will not happen.

The majority also used to dictate that Blacks didn't have the same civil rights as whites. Majority rule can also be mob rule, and that's not an American ideal.

[Monky]

Not like they can increase the divorce rate more than it is now. Marriage is a sham at this point in the world, with the exception of a few of you guys on here who have been married longer than some of us have been alive..

We've seen a lot of divorces in the last few years w/ members here, some going through shit now. You really think that a 'marriage' between someone of the same sex is going to ruin the sanctity of marriage?

The divorces will be much more drama filled (entertaining), there won't be kids to be ripped apart and having to listen to the 'parents' hate each other for the rest of their lives. Ask me how a bad divorce can totally skew your perception of a relationship in life.. My parents didn't make it two years.

My aunt and her gf (yes she is a lesbian) were together for 30 years before she was no longer with us. Lasted longer than ANY marriage in my entire family.. it wasn't legal but they were together, and I still do not see anything wrong with it.

As for the cake shop, they are free to do whatever the fuck they want. It's their business. Hell if they make the best cakes and I happen to be by there I might stop in, but it wouldn't be because they are against gay marriage. It'd be because of the product they produce. Just like chick-fil-a, I may not share the same feelings as Truit Cathy or whatever his name is.. but damn if anyone else has a better chicken sammich or nuggets.

I have several gay friends, most of which have been in a relationship longer than any of mine have lasted.. If they want to get married then so be it. They can't do any worse than the rest of us.

[Byte Stryke]

That's nice of you to believe that, but it doesn't make it true. Or the right thing to do. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, not a Theist. "In God We Trust" and "under God" are relatively new additions to US mottos and the pledge. I can agree that this country had a lot of Christianity absorbed into the founding documents, but it was not the basis. I don't see Christ mentioned at all, and the only references to a deity were the seemingly unChristian terms "Nature's God" and "Creator".


That also isn't necessarily true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_..._United_States



The majority also used to dictate that Blacks didn't have the same civil rights as whites. Majority rule can also be mob rule, and that's not an American ideal.

[Scanker19]

If you want to be technical the nation was founded on Christian values and morals, which are the basis for the founding documents.

It was? Doesn't the First Amendment restrict the establishment of a state run church, in addition to not restricting the the free practice (or not to practice) of one's religion.

[Rooskibar03]

It was? Doesn't the First Amendment restrict the establishment of a state run church, in addition to not restricting the the free practice (or not to practice) of one's religion.

There is a difference between the Federal government endorsing any specific religion and the beliefs of the people who founded our nation and wrote those documents.  They specially wrote the 1st Amendment to protect citizens from the same type of government they have just fought and escaped from, the British monarchy, where they were forced to support the church. That is why it’s the FIRST amendment; we are all free to believe what we want without persecution.
 
That said if you delve into history one cannot dispute there was a Christian influence in the life of the founders

[Ronin13]

Remember folks, they didn't refuse service to them for being gay, they said they serve gays, they just don't make gay wedding cakes... that didn't sound right. They just don't make cakes for gay weddings. You get my point. So these stupid gay people need to shut up already and move on. This business doesn't support or agree with gay marriage, but they'll still make you a birthday cake- find a gay supportive cake shop and stop pushing your beliefs on everyone else.

[Great-Kazoo]

Would a bakery that had Obama support stickers and well known supporter of democratic ideals, refuse to make a cake that had a Gun Theme? If so would there be as much of an outcry from people as there is regarding this business owners choice?
Doubt it. That is the difference, anyone of us would look for a bakery that would fill our order. The other side of the coin wants to be treated as a specific class of society and will do anything and everything in their power, to see we as society comply with their train of thought. That is why America is on the edge of (if not already sliding down in to) failure.

[ChunkyMonkey]

^^^ +1 I know a doctor who was such a strong Obama supporter that kicked me out of his office after I presented some facts.