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"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Easy answer; start a separate sub forum for "noobs" to band together, into a second group. The lifers here already have their friends, their cliques. It leaves the true hearted noobs looking for camaraderie out in the cold. No need for that. Plenty of noobs here to group up and do their own thing, and not have to make the lifers fret about them.
Things are looking dismal out there, Obama may very well win a second term, and keep deficit spending us towards financial collapse. No time for posting a 1000 times and spending two years here waiting to wedge your way into the lifer's trust. Split off, everyone will be happy.
You could do that. Or you could take a little time and get to know people.
The funny thing about message boards is that all you really have to go on is a persons written word until you meet someone face to face. It takes a long time to build a feel for a person. Just like it takes a long time to build a real friendship.
Take some time and get to know some like minded folks. You might find out that you don't even want to be involved with some people. There's a lot more to group compatibility than a desire to prep or be self sufficient.
Or just form a group of complete strangers and hope it works out.
Mick-Boy
"Men who carry rifles for a living do not seek reward outside the guild. The most cherished gift...is a nod from his peers."
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I have quite a bit of experience with message boards, and the folks who post on them. Here's what I've found out; you can fuck around trying to figure people out by what they write on line for years and never actually get to know the real them, or you can meet them in person and know in a flash. How people come across on line can be so different from how they are in real life.
That's what makes real life gatherings so valuable. This cyber crap is just superficial make believe. People playing roles, trying to show off to the universe, trying to paint themselves larger than they are or actually feel about themselves. You want to hook up and make real friends? Don't waste your time with endless keyboard interactions under the microscope of the world, organize some real life socials, see who you actually like, and who you don't. Be done with it, and get on with it. The end.
So.... the guy complaining about not being included in a non-existent, hypothetical, "may happen at some future date" sub-forum advocates not wasting time with endless keyboard interactions... Got it.
If you're that hot and bothered for some face to face meet and greets together then organize them. No one is stopping you.
Mick-Boy
"Men who carry rifles for a living do not seek reward outside the guild. The most cherished gift...is a nod from his peers."
nsrconsulting.net
Is this kanecutter posting under a different name? Sounds like the same shit.
Organize a shoot [meet & greet] if given enough notice people will see what they can do with their schedule.
I'd say shoot this sunday, pawnee, but you are too far to drive for a few hrs of shooting. Likewise to travel down south, given 4 days to prep.
FWIW: EVERY NEWBIE that has this attitude regarding us old guys, either doesn't last long, joins the .mil or punks out when a put up or shut up thread is started.
The last sentence i highlighted is why (in response to another thread) i would not be in a land group by. Some of old timers might show you a thing or too, firearm and prep wise.
Old Age and Treachery, Will Always overcome Youth and Skill
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