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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    It's kind of dumb. Uninvolved (the term 'innocent' ruffles my feathers a bit, as one can be a civilian and very much not 'innocent.') people die in war. In more rational times we held that it was the aggressor's fault that such people died, even when the other side (accidentally) killed them. They started it and necessitated the response, after all, and the hurt party's standard ought to be to preserve their own soldiers and people.

    It's a very strange moral standard, that ties the good man's hands and works to the advantage of the evil man. We could speculate as to the motives of people who promote such a moral standard - what they hope to accomplish - but that is considered rude in this day and age.

    i have to say pancho that i never thought you and i would agree on anything

    well stated sir:
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    i have to say pancho that i never thought you and i would agree on anything

    well stated sir:
    I echo this!

    War is a morally ambiguous place... there is so much grey area in the fog of war that it is impossible to place a black and white description with it.
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    but, I too echo Pancho's sentiments regarding morality in war.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NightCat View Post
    Strip his rank, send him home, dishonorable discharge him and get him the fuck out of my army.

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    If he's PTSD take care of him, then decide what path he should be on, RTD or discharged.
    The main question i have is this an actual .mil active duty soldier OR someone like the guy @ the dnc who, SURPRISE, NEVER worked for a Bain Capital CO and lied through his teeth?
    ANYONE can buy a uniform and wear it, active, reserve, or fake?
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