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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    Drop in the bucket.

    SS, medicare/medicaid, and welfare constituted 2.16 trillion dollars in 2011.

    Yeah, foreign aid is dumb, but if we got rid of it, it would have no noticeable effect on any of our real problems, so it's kind of down there on the list of things I get worked up about.
    SS, medicare, and medicaid would not be a part of the problem if those programs had not been raped over the years by politicians who thought they were just a piggy bank for them to play with. Those are not entitlement programs; they were/are paid into by all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    SS, medicare, and medicaid would not be a part of the problem if those programs had not been raped over the years by politicians who thought they were just a piggy bank for them to play with. Those are not entitlement programs; they were/are paid into by all of us.
    They would just be a problem further down the road.

    Yeah, politicians on both sides of the aisle just used SS as a general fund tax, same for medicare/aid, but that doesn't change the fact that the systems themselves are unsustainable. It just meant our children would have to deal with it instead of us, which, well, okay? I guess that's better in the sense that I wouldn't have to get all pissed off over it. But it doesn't change the core problem of promising more than you can possibly pay in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    SS, medicare, and medicaid would not be a part of the problem if those programs had not been raped over the years by politicians who thought they were just a piggy bank for them to play with. Those are not entitlement programs; they were/are paid into by all of us.
    the problem now, and over the last few decades, is that more people are drawing out of it and at a higher rate than we can supply.

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    53Billions

    30 from private entities

    15B in military aid that is usually given in form of grant to buy US made equipments and/or in US military surplus

    Yeah: i agree about Pakistan: The only help they should ever receive from us is a nuke on their face!
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    $3.1 Trillion on Iraq/Afghanistan wars was insanity. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and Republican President George W. Bush changed the "theme" to "regime change" when NO WMD's were found. This year we are running a 16 trillion $ deficit? This fiscal policy will destroy the US. And yes the 3.1 trillion dollars was to "aid" these foreign countries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    $3.1 Trillion on Iraq/Afghanistan wars was insanity. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and Republican President George W. Bush changed the "theme" to "regime change" when NO WMD's were found. This year we are running a 16 trillion $ deficit? This fiscal policy will destroy the US. And yes the 3.1 trillion dollars was to "aid" these foreign countries...
    Look at the bright side though: Now everybody love us in the middle east since we help them oust their tyrant....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthabagah View Post
    Look at the bright side though: Now everybody love us in the middle east since we help them oust their tyrant....
    We should all hold hands...
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