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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    I think they should just print off $16T and pay off the debt. Problem solved.

    Point of interest, for those who haven't taken the time to do the math. 16 trillion breaks out to approximately $48,000 of debt for every person in the United States. Yep, that's what you would have to fork over to do your "fair share" in paying off our current national debt. A family of 4? $192,000.

    At the pace we're on, at the end of Obama's next term, unless he ramps up spending even more, which is likely, those figures will spike to $63,000 and $252,000. Nice, huh? That's what we're saddling the next generation with. Before they even see their first paycheck they're already that much in debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastMan View Post
    Point of interest, for those who haven't taken the time to do the math. 16 trillion breaks out to approximately $48,000 of debt for every person in the United States. Yep, that's what you would have to fork over to do your "fair share" in paying off our current national debt. A family of 4? $192,000.

    At the pace we're on, at the end of Obama's next term, unless he ramps up spending even more, which is likely, those figures will spike to $63,000 and $252,000. Nice, huh? That's what we're saddling the next generation with. Before they even see their first paycheck they're already that much in debt.

    Eff that fair share BS. Tax the rich, make them pay their "fair share" and mine, and my kids, and most of my wife's...

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    You guys need to stop worrying. We can always print more money.


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    We keep going this way and toilet paper will be worth more than money. At least with toilet paper you have decent ass wipe. We keep going this way, and its has been said in another online forum, "the day is coming when someone will drop a $100 bill in the street and nobody will bother to pick it up"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodburbon View Post
    Eff that fair share BS. Tax the rich, make them pay their "fair share" and mine, and my kids, and most of my wife's...
    It's about time EVERYONE started paying their "fair share". That they don't is a major root of the problem. Half the population with their hands out, paying nothing in. Easy votes to buy, just keep promising them more, and tell them the rich will pay for it.

    Margaret Thatcher - "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastMan View Post
    It's about time EVERYONE started paying their "fair share". That they don't is a major root of the problem. Half the population with their hands out, paying nothing in. Easy votes to buy, just keep promising them more, and tell them the rich will pay for it.
    To presume that the 48% of the citizenry have their hands out is hyberbole f not plain dishonesty. A substantial portion of those people have jobs, but make too little to owe federal income tax. They still pay plenty of other taxes, especially consumption taxes. They follow the same tax code that (presumably) you do. I know I don't want to lose the mortgage deduction, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    To presume that the 48% of the citizenry have their hands out is hyberbole f not plain dishonesty. A substantial portion of those people have jobs, but make too little to owe federal income tax. They still pay plenty of other taxes, especially consumption taxes. They follow the same tax code that (presumably) you do. I know I don't want to lose the mortgage deduction, do you?
    Whether they have their hands out or not is irrelevant. The fact is almost half of the population pays no federal income tax, yet still gets to have a say in what should happen with my money. And even if they do pay other forms of taxes, at least some of them make more in federal returns than they pay out in all the other taxes combined. The tax code is a cluster fuck. Big time.

    Here's a fun fact: If the federal government cut it's budget in half (which could easily be done), we wouldn't have to pay individual income taxes and the budget would be balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    To presume that the 48% of the citizenry have their hands out is hyberbole f not plain dishonesty. A substantial portion of those people have jobs, but make too little to owe federal income tax. They still pay plenty of other taxes, especially consumption taxes. They follow the same tax code that (presumably) you do. I know I don't want to lose the mortgage deduction, do you?
    Our federal government is slated to spend 3.8 trillion dollars in 2012, about 12,000 on average on every person in the country. Half the populace pays not a single cent for all the beneficial things that money brings to them. No hyperbole there, nothing dishonest, it's just cut and dry facts.

    There's a reason Obama has mushroomed the number of people on food stamps (1 in 6 americans now) and other federal subsidy programs. It locks more people into dependency on the government. The more he can lock into dependency, them more votes he can buy via borrowed money from China.

    Everyone needs to be paying something. They need to feel like stakeholders, like contributors. It invests them into the future well being of the country. I'm for implementing a national value added tax, coupled with a balanced budget amendment. Any deficit would be resolved by an increase in the value added rate. Now that, would get people interested in putting a stop to the deficit spending that is on the verge of crippling us.

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