Trading post mini-rant

[JohnTRourke]

If you wanted to know what it sold for, you should have paid it.

the only two people who "paid" to know the price of that item on that day from that seller is the buyer and the seller. Private party transaction means exactly that, it's private.

if you want to know a "price" go online and buy from a dealer. That's a public transaction, but even that, can be negotiable. You don't know what the previous guy paid for that car like yours or sofa or TV, why should you get to know for free what he paid for that gun that's similar to yours?

Information is valuable, it does have a cost, price discovery costs money.

[alxone]

Shouldn't use this site as a reference for pricing out things...


... that's what Armslist is for...

Mike is kinda right ( not about arms list ) better deals tend to happen here than other sites . There are many reasons for this ( local , friends , not wanting to be low balled by armlisters etc ) . Also a lot of items are for trade only

[SouthPaw]

As John put it, private sale means just that, private. I always remove it out of respect for the next owner and I will continue to do that. If you are considering buying or selling a similar item, do the research like the rest of us before the sale. If it sells in 5 mins it was a "good deal." If it does not move maybe resarch further and adjust the price accordingly.

[TennVol]

I really don't give a damn what the item eventually sold for, or was traded for, or whatever the disposition eventually was - that was between the seller and the buyer. I only would like to see the original post remain intact and see what the original asking price was for the item. Nothing more, nothing less. It seems to work OK on other boards, why not here?

Whether or not the original asking price was fair or not, or if it that price can be used a basis for negotiation for another like item is not my concern. I offer items for sale based on what I think they are worth and I only buy items in the same manner. I use old posts (with old prices) as one of many data points I use when I am buying/selling.

Having the original post remain intact would be one more piece of information buyers/sellers would have at their disposal to help determine fair market market value of items. Old posts/prices would certainly not be the final word, but it could be one piece of data folks may find useful.

[SouthPaw]

I really don't give a damn what the item eventually sold for, or was traded for, or whatever the disposition eventually was - that was between the seller and the buyer.

Whether or not the original asking price was fair or not, or if it that price can be used a basis for negotiation for another like item is not my concern. I offer items for sale based on what I think they are worth and I only buy items in the same manner.

You just stated almost everything John and I have already said. Fair market is only what a buyer is willing to pay. If you are willing to pay $250 for a stripped run of the mill lower because that is what they are "selling" for, go right ahead. If you are going to sell items in the same manner no one is stopping you. It still comes down to you doing your own research before buying and selling. Just stating my opinion on the subject.

[MCarp71]

Shouldn't use this site as a reference for pricing out things...


... that's what Armslist is for...

Thats funny right there!!

[sniper7]

I delete the whole thing. If it we're up to me I would delete my entire ad all together. I don't see where my purchases and sales need to be all over the internet to be searched. Kinda hurts any boating accident claims!

[TennVol]

You just stated almost everything John and I have already said. Fair market is only what a buyer is willing to pay. If you are willing to pay $250 for a stripped run of the mill lower because that is what they are "selling" for, go right ahead. If you are going to sell items in the same manner no one is stopping you. It still comes down to you doing your own research before buying and selling. Just stating my opinion on the subject.

Agreed. One piece of the research puzzle is reviewing any old posts/sales you can find (here, Gun Broker, Guns America, etc...) to see what has already transpired. Keeping old FS posts intact gives you one more piece of usable data you can accumulate to help you buy/sell items.

[Wiggity]

I really don't give a damn what the item eventually sold for, or was traded for, or whatever the disposition eventually was - that was between the seller and the buyer. I only would like to see the original post remain intact and see what the original asking price was for the item. Nothing more, nothing less. It seems to work OK on other boards, why not here?

Whether or not the original asking price was fair or not, or if it that price can be used a basis for negotiation for another like item is not my concern. I offer items for sale based on what I think they are worth and I only buy items in the same manner. I use old posts (with old prices) as one of many data points I use when I am buying/selling.

Having the original post remain intact would be one more piece of information buyers/sellers would have at their disposal to help determine fair market market value of items. Old posts/prices would certainly not be the final word, but it could be one piece of data folks may find useful.

You know...there is this website out there that not many people know about that accomplishes this exact purpose. It is www.google.com. It usually leads you to other sites such as www.gunbroker.com and www.gunsamerica.com. It's a complicated system, but if you can learn to use it correctly, then you can price damn near anything.

Some people on this site may not want to keep their selling record as public information. If you do not like this, you may need to realize that it is none of your business.


Stupid thread is stupid.

[Wiggity]

Agreed. One piece of the research puzzle is reviewing any old posts/sales you can find (here, Gun Broker, Guns America, etc...) to see what has already transpired. Keeping old FS posts intact gives you one more piece of usable data you can accumulate to help you buy/sell items.

Cheesus man, how much "data" do you need to sell something for a few hundred bucks? Stick it up there for a gunbroker/gunsamerica price, if it sells then great, if not, lower the price until it sells.

Now let me explain buying to you. If you are willing pay the price, then buy, if not, then don't and try to work out a deal.

This is some pretty simple shit.