Ryan didn't suck. He stuck to the Romney/Ryan plan and articulated it well.

Biden? I'm gonna disagree with most of you. I think he did well. Surprisingly well. Not because anything he said was true of his administration but because he said very well what liberals want to hear. True or not that plays well with his/Obama's base. Yes, he was annoying, condescending and smug to anyone who cared to look objectively...but his base isn't interested in that.

So, from that perspective, Biden did much better than I thought he would and I seriously under-estimated his ability.

Ryan was pragmatic and stuck to specifics and facts.

But I think this one was much closer than the Romney/Obama debate.