Official Presidential Debate thread 10/16

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

ok, how many dicks in total are we talking about???

Ssssooooo many. Dozens probably.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Lets hope the pot smokers vote away for Johnson. I hope this works for our favor.

Doubt they'll even remember to vote.

[hollohas]

If more people applied the logic from the latter to the former, we wouldn't be stuck with a troublesome decision on which is the least awful for us every 4 years.

I wish Colorado would do a real primary rather than a caucus.

[sniper7]

I agree that another 4 years of Obama will, at the very best, stagnate our country.

But I feel the other option is a guy who made his millions by buying out companies and selling off their assets. A guy who also said that military style weapons don't belong in the hands of the citizenry, and was seen as a likable enough guy to lead a very liberal state. He has a plan, but refuses to tell us what it is. It's the same thing we were calling Obama out for back in 2008.

Fact is, the military can definitely afford some spending cuts. As can many other government agencies. And that the American people need to be willing to do more to help their country out. We ARE going the way of Greece. We are demanding that our government do more and more and tax us less and less. I think a simplified tax law could go a long way to take care of that.

okay great. so who are you going to vote for. the guy in there now that is going to continue what he has done for the last 4 years and has an agenda and has the support of the Brady campaign, or are you going to vote for the guy who has been an accomplished businessman, be it selling off failed companies after fixing them up and making them profitable/marketable, he does have some stains on his shirt from his past. they all do. at least we KNOW what he has done...he has the support of the NRA, a lifetime member, he has Paul Ryan who hunts, can make the hard decisions to cut .gov and make the budget see black again.

Romney can't tell us how he intends to fix 4 years of fuckups in the 2 minutes he gets with the mircophone, that isn't going to happen. We will hear bits and pieces...so far it sounds much better than the crap obama has done in the last 4 years and plans to do in the next 4. Obama has said he has a plan to get rid of the deficit and cut back the spending. yet he wants to reallocate the money used on wars for education. All of our kids will need education...that's great, but will they be in debt for the rest of their life to learn a skill to become a slave of the .gov? who wants that?

You said:

the American people need to be willing to do more to help their country out.

so you want them to pay more taxes? just like the CCW in national parks, you don't pay attention to the details. where in history has more taxes done more for the American people other than to enslave us longer to the government. That is the whole reason we are a country is due to over taxation. that is nowhere near the answer. it is absolutely, unequivocally, positively the wrong answer.

[Ridge]

We cast our vote for Santorum.

Precisely. The caucus is when the extremists and hardliners show up.

[sniper7]

So who's here as gun owners support Obama's call for reintroduction of Assault Weapon Ban?

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...lt-weapons-ban

not me...

[ChunkyMonkey]

okay great. so who are you going to vote for. the guy in there now that is going to continue what he has done for the last 4 years and has an agenda and has the support of the Brady campaign, or are you going to vote for the guy who has been an accomplished businessman, be it selling off failed companies after fixing them up and making them profitable/marketable, he does have some stains on his shirt from his past. they all do. at least we KNOW what he has done...he has the support of the NRA, a lifetime member, he has Paul Ryan who hunts, can make the hard decisions to cut .gov and make the budget see black again.

Romney can't tell us how he intends to fix 4 years of fuckups in the 2 minutes he gets with the mircophone, that isn't going to happen. We will hear bits and pieces...so far it sounds much better than the crap obama has done in the last 4 years and plans to do in the next 4. Obama has said he has a plan to get rid of the deficit and cut back the spending. yet he wants to reallocate the money used on wars for education. All of our kids will need education...that's great, but will they be in debt for the rest of their life to learn a skill to become a slave of the .gov? who wants that?

You said:

so you want them to pay more taxes? just like the CCW in national parks, you don't pay attention to the details. where in history has more taxes done more for the American people other than to enslave us longer to the government. That is the whole reason we are a country is due to over taxation. that is nowhere near the answer. it is absolutely, unequivocally, positively the wrong answer.

oh come on Sniper.. there is not greater good than principle and ego.

[sniper7]

Voting for Johnson is just taking a vote from Romney...

Remember Ross Perot?
He got 19M votes, almost 19% of all votes cast... GHWB got 39M or 37.5% and lost by just under 6M votes -
Clinton would be a footnote in history if the Republicans that voted for Perot would have voted GHWB...

I'm just sayin'

and more than likely the AWB would have been passed, it wouldn't be a topic of concern or something to re-introduce either.

[sniper7]

Lets hope the pot smokers vote away for Johnson. I hope this works for our favor.

a lot of pot smokers are pro-gun republicans/libertarians who don't think the .gov should be involved in their lives or what they inhale into their lungs. Just like alcohol.

[Zundfolge]

I wish Colorado would do a real primary rather than a caucus.

Agreed. Not only that but we should have a national day of primaries ... and all primaries should be closed.

No monkey wrenching the other party's primaries.
No early primary states reducing the number of candidates the late primary states are allowed to vote for.

I recommend the first Tuesday after the first Monday in February of an election year.

a lot of pot smokers are pro-gun republicans/libertarians who don't think the .gov should be involved in their lives or what they inhale into their lungs. Just like alcohol.

This is true (I count myself as one of those ... although I'm voting against 64, but for other reasons that I don't want to derail this thread with), but the majority of pro-legalization folk are left of center ... you know, a broken clock being right once a day and all that.